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Hey sean, two questions on this.

1. Does this excersise work by just pumping your sexual arua overall, or does the excersise have to be done specefically while the women you are trying to attract are around?
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2. Does this work in the same way "za zhen" does, is 5 minutes concentrated more effective than 15 minutes drifting in and out.
have no idea what za zhen is. but this is something you have to feel your way into. let go of the idea of timing it, and just feel whatever is there when you practice.
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I.E if you feel your distracted should you stop or just continue?

if you are going to practice, set a rule that you will stick with it at least 5 minutes. i play some kinda quiet, mellow music, and make sure i go at least 2 songs. and some days i'm not feeling it, but i don't quit.

it's like lifting. some days you don't have it, but you do your sets and reps.

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What does it feels like cuz sometimes i don't feel anything (this hasn't worked for me in a place where women come) and sometimes at home I get a weird feeling in my stomach.


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What does it feels like cuz sometimes i don't feel anything (this hasn't worked for me in a place where women come) and sometimes at home I get a weird feeling in my stomach.
focus on your groin and heart, not stomach.

you're probably getting tense and worrying yourself over what to feel and of you're doing it right.

let that go. breathe into your groin. pay attention to the sensation there, and there only. then breathe into your heart. pay attention there. then both. inhale from groin up to heart, then exhale.

repeat.

practice on your own and take your time. you'll get it.

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There's actually alot of truth to the effects of tantra. Although I have not put time into directly researching the art, I've seen some examples that can be directly related.

One being, there was a week long human body special on discovery that one of the nights looked into alternative medicine and how it works with the body. What they showed absolutely blew my mind, a guy went in for a root canal (generally a procedure that is anything but pleasant), the dentist actually used a form of awake hypnotherapy which I would assume is much like tantra if not the same, in which he confused the brain to think what we would consider as pain during the operation into feelings of joy and comfort. They time lapsed the procedure and even showed real time and this guy was having a full conversation with the dentist during his root canal and absolutely NO anestesia. The dentist even went on to say that he doesn't even need to prescribe pain medications afterwards because the effects of the therapy are long lasting. I found this to be amazing and fully believeable.

As far as your method sean, I tried it out and after I was finished I felt something that I only usually feel in one other situation: the feeling could be directly related to what we call a "runner's high". This is a state when running that you have litterally pushed yourself to the max, you're using all available oxygen provided to your body and your hormone levels sky-rocket because of the adrenaline running through you. It's a state where you just feel on top of the world like nothing can bring you down. And I can see how this could be used as a form of non-verbal communication with those around you that would have quite the allure.


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I tried it out and after I was finished I felt something that I only usually feel in one other situation: the feeling could be directly related to what we call a "runner's high". This is a state when running that you have litterally pushed yourself to the max, you're using all available oxygen provided to your body and your hormone levels sky-rocket because of the adrenaline running through you. It's a state where you just feel on top of the world like nothing can bring you down. And I can see how this could be used as a form of non-verbal communication with those around you that would have quite the allure.
Great point. I remember the first time I got a runner's high... after a x-country race my senior year where I set my PR (18:37... I used to be kind of fast before I got big and beefy ;) ), and when I crossed the line, I told my coach I felt like I just at a 9-course meal of LSD.

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When you feel good and show it, other people want to be around you. Some of this pickup stuff really is that simple.

Feeling good is way more attractive than the very best routine.

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What does it feels like cuz sometimes i don't feel anything (this hasn't worked for me in a place where women come) and sometimes at home I get a weird feeling in my stomach.
focus on your groin and heart, not stomach.

you're probably getting tense and worrying yourself over what to feel and of you're doing it right.

let that go. breathe into your groin. pay attention to the sensation there, and there only. then breathe into your heart. pay attention there. then both. inhale from groin up to heart, then exhale.

repeat.

practice on your own and take your time. you'll get it.
The stomach, in terms of chakras and oriental medicine is related to worry and anxiety. This is why you'll see stage performers or athletes get sick in the stomach before a tense event. This is very difficult to simply let go.

Instead, Zen Buddhists often recommend to focus on it and reflect on it. Actually embrace that feeling in your stomach and simply breathe. I have a hunch WHY you may have some feelings in your stomach but it truly only works when you discover this on your own. Once you realize and associate your feelings in your stomach with your actual experiences, the problem with alleviate on its own. Try to avoid that "feeling" and it'll always be present even when you don't realize it. Then, you can freely focus on your heart and your gonads.


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The stomach, in terms of chakras and oriental medicine is related to worry and anxiety. This is why you'll see stage performers or athletes get sick in the stomach before a tense event. This is very difficult to simply let go.

Instead, Zen Buddhists often recommend to focus on it and reflect on it. Actually embrace that feeling in your stomach and simply breathe. I have a hunch WHY you may have some feelings in your stomach but it truly only works when you discover this on your own. Once you realize and associate your feelings in your stomach with your actual experiences, the problem with alleviate on its own. Try to avoid that "feeling" and it'll always be present even when you don't realize it. Then, you can freely focus on your heart and your gonads.
Great points, and I'm just learning myself in my daily practice that the stomach is also where you get your energy, drive, and anger, and the more you get into feeling it and letting it be, the more that negative stuff (anxiety, anger, nerves) dissipates, and you can tap into the postive stuff (drive, power, energy).

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the stomach is also where you get your energy, drive, and anger, and the more you get into feeling it and letting it be, the more that negative stuff (anxiety, anger, nerves) dissipates, and you can tap into the postive stuff (drive, power, energy).
This is why lower abdominal breathing is a part of nearly every form of martial arts.

Chicken or the egg?

When you're calm, you naturally breathe deeply, at a slower cadence with your lower abdominal muscles.

If you're nervous, you can actually force yourself to breathe deeply through your lower abdominal muscles and within minutes, notice your nervousness dissipate. I've written this before but I'm a big fan of tangible, identifiable, physical solutions for emotional issues.


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Hey sean, two questions on this.

1. Does this excersise work by just pumping your sexual arua overall, or does the excersise have to be done specefically while the women you are trying to attract are around?

2. Does this work in the same way "za zhen" does, is 5 minutes concentrated more effective than 15 minutes drifting in and out.

I.E if you feel your distracted should you stop or just continue?

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Zazen is about the mind mostly and self-reflection from there you get an understanding yourself and life, so no..it does no cover what Tantra does, or what Sean is talking of. Tantra works with the energy centers, "chakras". I'm positive if you get into the higher levels of Zazen they do cover energy work being it is a derivative of Buddism.

I couldn't quote what Kasabi wrote but I fully agree with him, just wanted to add if you look into physics they talk of a "golden line" which basically is your center of gravity. In what Sean talks about he's trying make you focus on that to get to your root, which is debatable- being it could be your tailbone or your root chakra (which is abit lower), depending on your discipline. Without being grounded...you have nothing.


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Would you try to open a door, or would you just open it ?

To label anything as "try" is to open to the possibility of failure.


If you chose to do this exercise, don't try to do it.

Relax, read through the exercise, sit comfortably, and do it.
It is a form of meditation, so if you have meditated before, or have done yoga etc. it will come easy to you.

Zazen involves sitting in a position that maintains an erect, relaxed spine, breathing deeply with your stomach, with eye-lids half closed, so as not to sleep, but keep conscious through the meditation.

Tantric energy may not be the same, but it works on the same principles which is to release dormant energy through introspection and relaxation.
In Zen buddhism, where zazen is practiced, the goal is understanding.
To reach Satori, which is the understanding of the universe or the world, and everything that relates to these.
Tantric sex and that stuff, is to my knowledge, focused on that the sexual act is a symbol for freedom and pleasure, as well as procreation.
So the Tantric rituals, which I consider this to be, are then focused on liberating yourself from the constraints we have build up around sex.

And the belief that once you do, it will affect the opinion others around you may have had about you, or generate a new sexual attraction where one was missing or dormant.

at least that's how I understand it, please comment if you have a better explanation.

When it comes to the question; Does it work ?
-yes.

If you do this, it will work.

If you dabble in magic of other sources than the Tantric one, they will too work.
It is my firm belief that what you believe affects reality.
If you believe that Tantra works, it does, if you doubt it, it may work, or it may not. (Trying will not get the results that doing will, most of the time)

(btw, it is a hypnotic suggestion that goes: ...now Try,( in vain,) to lift your arm, go on.... try. You may find that it is stuck, and that the harder you try to lift it, the more stuck it becomes, and so on....)


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Would you try to open a door, or would you just open it ?

To label anything as "try" is to open to the possibility of failure.


If you chose to do this exercise, don't try to do it.

Relax, read through the exercise, sit comfortably, and do it.
It is a form of meditation, so if you have meditated before, or have done yoga etc. it will come easy to you.

Zazen involves sitting in a position that maintains an erect, relaxed spine, breathing deeply with your stomach, with eye-lids half closed, so as not to sleep, but keep conscious through the meditation.

Tantric energy may not be the same, but it works on the same principles which is to release dormant energy through introspection and relaxation.
In Zen buddhism, where zazen is practiced, the goal is understanding.
To reach Satori, which is the understanding of the universe or the world, and everything that relates to these.
Tantric sex and that stuff, is to my knowledge, focused on that the sexual act is a symbol for freedom and pleasure, as well as procreation.
So the Tantric rituals, which I consider this to be, are then focused on liberating yourself from the constraints we have build up around sex.

And the belief that once you do, it will affect the opinion others around you may have had about you, or generate a new sexual attraction where one was missing or dormant.

at least that's how I understand it, please comment if you have a better explanation.

When it comes to the question; Does it work ?
-yes.

If you do this, it will work.

If you dabble in magic of other sources than the Tantric one, they will too work.
It is my firm belief that what you believe affects reality.
If you believe that Tantra works, it does, if you doubt it, it may work, or it may not. (Trying will not get the results that doing will, most of the time)

(btw, it is a hypnotic suggestion that goes: ...now Try,( in vain,) to lift your arm, go on.... try. You may find that it is stuck, and that the harder you try to lift it, the more stuck it becomes, and so on....)
*Nods, you hit everything on the nail with your explanation.

Your right about Zazen & Tantra working with different energies, in my view I find that Tantra is much more body energy which then goes into the mind, being pleasure- estacy, etc. Where as Zazen focuses on the breathe and mind components more which then go into the body.

No matter how you look @ it though- the basis of most schools comes down to breathing then uniting the physical & mental through different disciplines.


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Most, if not all, of this seems to be different adaptations of Yogic techniques.
So I think the easiest way to learn more about how this all works is to learn Yoga. Pranayama and so forth.

It seems the only real difference is the goals you seek to achieve through this meditation.

And, again, the changes you can experience through this are as real as the thoughts in your head, or your name, or any other thing you care to name.

And people will notice the change, and act differently to you.
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Most, if not all, of this seems to be different adaptations of Yogic techniques.
;)
I like to think of this and the other techniques I'm working on to increase confidence, happiness and power as my retardedly simple approach to this amazing tradition. :)

I'm really not smart enough to do it all the way... but I am just clever enough to find ways to get some of the more immediately practical benefits with the least work.

I'm lazy. :)


btw, i've found that for me at least, this practice can be done just as effectively lying down (as long as you don't fall asleep). try it when you lie down to go to sleep... and you'll have some nice dreams.

i mean like Cheech and Chong level Nice Dreams :D

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This thread made me giggle.

Eventho, I'll definitly try this out.

I've been familiar with meditation so I mainly get the point of it.


I'll post here again once I notice any change.


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This thread made me giggle.

Eventho, I'll definitly try this out.

I've been familiar with meditation so I mainly get the point of it.


I'll post here again once I notice any change.
think of it as supercharged, sexy meditation. :D

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