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It depends on the girl...

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You missed the point of the thread which is that you don't need money and expensive things to get girls.
Unless it's £1000 for a bootcamp - and when you're no better than you was before, then money matters very, very much.
Bootcamp is way different than flashing or showing off your money. As bootcamp is about self improvement.


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LOL, I never said that. I don't need those luxury goods to get a girl :D I need them to feel good.
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if you're going after one night stands and you're not looking for anything long term now, then money definately does help to some extent... but as someone already pointed out, that would pretty much be like paying for a series of escourts.
No it doesn't, I'm going to put this blunt. You're wrong. Showing of wealth will most likely put a girl into a LTR type mindset where she thinks she can more shit out of you before putting out.

Showing of wealth puts you into the category of "provider" This is a posistion you don't want to be in.

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You can use wealth to your advantage when it comes to club game and dates...

It's not rocket science and it will at some point attract some of the wrong type of girls, but it is an advantage.

Do you need it to get laid or have a girlfriend? Of course not, but if you have it you should use it.

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Because achievement feels good.
Yes achieving something does fell good. But to me the fact that you need and not want high end material things says to me that there is something lacking in you that you are compensating for, most probably overcompensating for something. Around here when people, especially girls see guys in lifted trucks they usually say the guy has a small dick as the lifted truck is to overcompensate for it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to live the life of the rich. But if your reason for it is because you need to buy expensive material things and not want them, then I think you need to rethink your reason(s) why you want to be rich. Because most people who just live their live to buy material things tend to not be very happy as a person. Also what are you going to do then once you achieve your goal of being able to buy expensive material things?

The reason I highlighted need and want is because you been saying you need to be rich instead of wanting to be rich. I don't know why you need to be rich instead of wanting to be rich. But as I mention above you seem to be compensating for the lack of something in you that you don't have and want or more need to fill in by being rich. Please correct me if you actually want to be rich instead of needing to be rich. I am just going off what you have said in your posts about needing to be rich and so far your reason for it.


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Showing of wealth puts you into the category of "provider" This is a posistion you don't want to be in.
Why? What if the guy does want a LTR? Shouldn't he then show he can indeed be a provider then?


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Showing of wealth puts you into the category of "provider" This is a posistion you don't want to be in.
Why? What if the guy does want a LTR? Shouldn't he then show he can indeed be a provider then?
Its still a terrible relationship that will just get you used and abused.

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Showing of wealth puts you into the category of "provider" This is a posistion you don't want to be in.
Why? What if the guy does want a LTR? Shouldn't he then show he can indeed be a provider then?
Its still a terrible relationship that will just get you used and abused.
Yes there is that possibility. But what if the guy shows that he can provide buy doesn't flash the money? Would that be better then?


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if you're going after one night stands and you're not looking for anything long term now, then money definately does help to some extent... but as someone already pointed out, that would pretty much be like paying for a series of escourts.
No it doesn't, I'm going to put this blunt. You're wrong. Showing of wealth will most likely put a girl into a LTR type mindset where she thinks she can more shit out of you before putting out.

Showing of wealth puts you into the category of "provider" This is a posistion you don't want to be in.
i agree and disagree with you.

yes, wealth can put her in the LTR frame of mind, depending on her age, upbringing, her financial position and how sexually aggressive you are.

for one night stands you escalate quickly. both you and the girl knows that this is only a one night thing. flashing the keys to your sports car just helps speed the process up. dont get me wrong, i by NO means mean to imply that you buy her crap... but a girl in a club is more likely to go home with a well dressed guy with a BMW than the EXACT same guy who could barely scrape cover charge, all other things being equal.

and not every girl out there is a gold digger and looking for you to be the provider. in evolutionary terms, yes, perhaps. but in modern society women are very focused on their careers and studies. they want to be man's equal.
in fact, i havent been in a single relationship where i was used for my wealth. every girl i've dated has always offered to pay at least her share of whatever. most of them even bought me random shit, so if anything i'd probably be considered the gold digger, and i'm financially blessed.

again, this would probably be dependent on how you go about picking up girls. if you've established yourself as the guy who buys her crap, then you'll stay that guy. if you've made her realize that you're not like every other rich asshole and you're not going to shower her with gifts then she'll either find a new rich guy or stick with you.


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Why?
Because achievement feels good.
Yes achieving something does fell good. But to me the fact that you need and not want high end material things says to me that there is something lacking in you that you are compensating for, most probably overcompensating for something. Around here when people, especially girls see guys in lifted trucks they usually say the guy has a small dick as the lifted truck is to overcompensate for it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to live the life of the rich. But if your reason for it is because you need to buy expensive material things and not want them, then I think you need to rethink your reason(s) why you want to be rich. Because most people who just live their live to buy material things tend to not be very happy as a person. Also what are you going to do then once you achieve your goal of being able to buy expensive material things?

The reason I highlighted need and want is because you been saying you need to be rich instead of wanting to be rich. I don't know why you need to be rich instead of wanting to be rich. But as I mention above you seem to be compensating for the lack of something in you that you don't have and want or more need to fill in by being rich. Please correct me if you actually want to be rich instead of needing to be rich. I am just going off what you have said in your posts about needing to be rich and so far your reason for it.
I need to be rich, because then I won't need to worry about getting old or anything (21st century, stem cell research ftw). I will be able to buy all the medicine for my close ones so they can stay young forever, too.

Yes, I am pretty confident that will be possible in 21.st century.

And about the penis thing. Well, my penis isn't big. It's around 15 cm when erected, average. I am not ashamed to say that. Why? Because it's depends on genes and there's nothing to do about it. The same goes for short people...I get angry when people say "He is so this and that because he wants to overcompensate for being short..." NO! He just had the guts to do something with his life.

If someone buys a cool car and other people tell it's because he has a small penis, well...do they say the same for cripples, because basically - it's the same thing. You are BORN WITH IT! There is nothing you can do. It's like saying "Well, Hawking writes such smart books, because he can't walk!". People are just jelous and need to find a reason to make them feel better.

What you mean anyone who drives an old shit golf has a big penis and everyone who is wealthy and can afford an escalade, have small penises? Wow, I will go and buy a beat up chevy now, god forbit, people might think something about me, god forbit I can stand out of crowd, noooo, I must be just like everyone else...mainstream as you say...yeah, then everything is going to be fine, no one will bother me.

What i want to say - there will always be haters...fuck them! Do what you want to do with my life. Yes I watched MTV cribs for a while and I liked what I saw, so I decided - if others can, why can't I?

Anyway, about that need and want. I know i want those things, but I kow if I have state of mind that I NEED them, then I will have more powerful to achieve it. If I have set aims, I don't think of retreating.


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This is getting something near Mac vs. PC talk :D hah

As I have said before, money is very important, you cant disagree - if you are a bum without anything house close cars watches I don't think you game will be successful ? - A little bit money will always be there but we can argue how much money we need ... and there comes the thing we are fighting about the AMOUNT of money !

U cant disagree on this, if you think about it .


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Because achievement feels good.
Yes achieving something does fell good. But to me the fact that you need and not want high end material things says to me that there is something lacking in you that you are compensating for, most probably overcompensating for something. Around here when people, especially girls see guys in lifted trucks they usually say the guy has a small dick as the lifted truck is to overcompensate for it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to live the life of the rich. But if your reason for it is because you need to buy expensive material things and not want them, then I think you need to rethink your reason(s) why you want to be rich. Because most people who just live their live to buy material things tend to not be very happy as a person. Also what are you going to do then once you achieve your goal of being able to buy expensive material things?

The reason I highlighted need and want is because you been saying you need to be rich instead of wanting to be rich. I don't know why you need to be rich instead of wanting to be rich. But as I mention above you seem to be compensating for the lack of something in you that you don't have and want or more need to fill in by being rich. Please correct me if you actually want to be rich instead of needing to be rich. I am just going off what you have said in your posts about needing to be rich and so far your reason for it.
I need to be rich, because then I won't need to worry about getting old or anything (21st century, stem cell research ftw). I will be able to buy all the medicine for my close ones so they can stay young forever, too.

Yes, I am pretty confident that will be possible in 21.st century.

And about the penis thing. Well, my penis isn't big. It's around 15 cm when erected, average. I am not ashamed to say that. Why? Because it's depends on genes and there's nothing to do about it. The same goes for short people...I get angry when people say "He is so this and that because he wants to overcompensate for being short..." NO! He just had the guts to do something with his life.

If someone buys a cool car and other people tell it's because he has a small penis, well...do they say the same for cripples, because basically - it's the same thing. You are BORN WITH IT! There is nothing you can do. It's like saying "Well, Hawking writes such smart books, because he can't walk!". People are just jelous and need to find a reason to make them feel better.

What you mean anyone who drives an old shit golf has a big penis and everyone who is wealthy and can afford an escalade, have small penises? Wow, I will go and buy a beat up chevy now, god forbit, people might think something about me, god forbit I can stand out of crowd, noooo, I must be just like everyone else...mainstream as you say...yeah, then everything is going to be fine, no one will bother me.

What i want to say - there will always be haters...fuck them! Do what you want to do with my life. Yes I watched MTV cribs for a while and I liked what I saw, so I decided - if others can, why can't I?

Anyway, about that need and want. I know i want those things, but I kow if I have state of mind that I NEED them, then I will have more powerful to achieve it. If I have set aims, I don't think of retreating.


A.) Stem Cell research's progress is remarkably crippled by morals and regulations; you're not going to live forever. You probably won't even be able to cure some surprise cancer that pops up in 10/20/50 years.

B.) Sounds like you were born into/inherited wealth and use it to compensate for the 15cm dick.


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I need to be rich, because then I won't need to worry about getting old or anything (21st century, stem cell research ftw). I will be able to buy all the medicine for my close ones so they can stay young forever, too.
The fountain of youth has not been found yet and we have only started getting into stem cells. But if that is your reason to wanting I mean needing to be rich. Then you still have lots to learn about life. But then again your 21? So you are still young and still have lots to learn and life to live. Also heres another finical tip for ya. If you learn how to manage your money and keep up on it, you really don't need to worry about your money. :wink:
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Yes, I am pretty confident that will be possible in 21.st century.
Maybe. We still have not totally uncoded our DNA yet.
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And about the penis thing. Well, my penis isn't big. It's around 15 cm when erected, average. I am not ashamed to say that. Why? Because it's depends on genes and there's nothing to do about it. The same goes for short people...I get angry when people say "He is so this and that because he wants to overcompensate for being short..." NO! He just had the guts to do something with his life.

If someone buys a cool car and other people tell it's because he has a small penis, well...do they say the same for cripples, because basically - it's the same thing. You are BORN WITH IT! There is nothing you can do. It's like saying "Well, Hawking writes such smart books, because he can't walk!". People are just jelous and need to find a reason to make them feel better.

What you mean anyone who drives an old shit golf has a big penis and everyone who is wealthy and can afford an escalade, have small penises? Wow, I will go and buy a beat up chevy now, god forbit, people might think something about me, god forbit I can stand out of crowd, noooo, I must be just like everyone else...mainstream as you say...yeah, then everything is going to be fine, no one will bother me.
You miss the point of what I was getting at and you didn't need to tell me any details about your penis either. What I was getting at was that guys will get the lifted truck because they want to show people that they are "alpha" or manly or macho. But in reality they are not as it is only a screen to cover up thing they view as a weakness. I am not saying every guy with a lifted truck is like this but a lot are. And
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What i want to say - there will always be haters...fuck them! Do what you want to do with my life. Yes I watched MTV cribs for a while and I liked what I saw, so I decided - if others can, why can't I?
There is nothing wrong with trying to get what you seen on MTV Cribs. But at the same time not everyone can be at the top. I am not trying to discourage you from doing this, I am just giving you the real deal as it ain't going to be easy for one. And you said you wanted to be rich by 30 and in todays economy good luck with that one. Very few people can make a million within a very short time span.
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Anyway, about that need and want. I know i want those things, but I kow if I have state of mind that I NEED them, then I will have more powerful to achieve it. If I have set aims, I don't think of retreating.
I disagree with that. Primary because I seen other guys with this mind set and they lead material entitlement lives. If that is something you want thats your choice. Personally I wouldn't mind having such things. But I more rather not live my life by being materialistic.

Watermelon just so you know the rich you get the lonelier you get. This is both from a work and relationship perspective.


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