My Battle with Approach anxiety, and How I Defeated it.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:49 pm 
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I have been aware of the PUA community for around five years. Occasionally I would dip in and out between relationships. However, I could never seem to get over the problem of approach anxiety and as a result was only able to use PUA techniques in social circles.

However, on this most recent visit to the PUA community I seem to have finally got through the approach anxiety problem, I still find it difficult, but it is nowhere near the wall it once appeared to be. I thought I would share my experience.

I want to explain how difficult it was for me. I decided to try an approach anxiety solution called “demonic confidence” (you can find that with Google) which is a progressive conditioning technique (which I would recommend as it may help many people.) Without giving too much away, it’s a 21 day programme where you have to gradually increase the difficulty of approaching. It really hit home to me how difficult approaching was for me when I tried “Day 1” of the programme.

Day 1 of the Demonic Confidence programme asks you to go out for 1 hour and simply approach as many people as possible and ask them the time, nothing more than that. After taking the time to visit a big city, and spending one-hour thirty-minutes doing this task I managed to approach just three people during that time. That should give you an indication of how difficult I found approach anxiety.

How I solved the problem

1: Immersion in PUA
I immersed myself in PUA study, reading, videos, and mp3s, especially regarding opening and approaching and inner game.

2: Become a social guy
Perhaps the most important thing for me personally was a shift in thinking and attitude to “become a social guy”. What that means is talking to anybody and everybody as much as possible.

- Talking to public servants (train ticket people, bus driver, taxis)
- Talking to bar staff
- Talking to waitresses in restaurants
- Talking to hired guns (handing out flyers, or selling shots)
(grab a load of flyers off these girls and start handing them out yourself)
- Talking to strippers
- Shop people
- Anyone, anywhere, male, female, child, elderly person

basically, ANYONE who I can use to practice small talk with I would talk to. I would always be looking for a way to make a conversation or say something more than what was expected. In a way I was training my mind to get used to looking for things to talk about.

3: Canned Low risk openers
- what’s the time
- Where is X bar
It can feel a bit silly, but it all helps, along with talking to all those people who are paid to talk with you, just to open a few people on the street with low-risk openers.

4: I recommend “the blueprint” for an awesome set of principles.
Technically it’s billed as “advanced game” but I think it really is a great set of principles and awesome inner game stuff.

5: Basic, simple, easy to remember “Cardinal Rules” I call them
1: Good eye contact
2: Smiling
3: Don’t lean in
4: Try for Kino off the bat
5: Speak slow and with conviction

I really begin to adopt the mindset that, “if I can see a reason to open, (regardless of whether it is a male, female, or whatever) then I will open”

After doing all the above, I go out with a friend one night who has only just found the community and I find the hurdle of opening people has been drastically reduced because I have become a more social person. Low and behold, I find myself opening 5-10 people that night. Mostly with silly little situational openers, but openers nonetheless! I think the mind is a muscle, I kind of trained myself to always be looking for small talk opportunities.

Magic
Magic has helped me loads with opening, sure it’s a crutch, but it’s a great tool to have, not just for pickup, but for friends and family, it’s just really good fun. With a bit of research and a few dollars, (or checkout YouTube) you really can totally impress people. Now there are a few tricks I can use to open people, I just like to roll up and say “Hey, I need an audience for a minute”.

I am still not where I want to be, I still can’t put my balls on the line and walk up to anyone with something direct, but now, usually when I go out, (I need a few drinks for Dutch courage) I can see something situational about the environment, or the person that I can open with, else I can use a silly little low risk opener: Where is X? What’s the time? What’s that drink? Etc

I hope this has helped someone
Good luck with your opening


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:51 pm 
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Very informative post

Will read again


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well put this is really usefull thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:57 pm 
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Altogether great ideas. If I ever have a bout of AA at a bar, I will use a few of what you call low risk openers just to get my head back in the game. Once I have opened a few of these sets, no matter how in consequential, my balls get a lot bigger and allow me to approach higher risk/higher reward sets.

Everybody should learn to be a more social person-the world would be a lot better place!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:09 am 
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Its so true!!!! the mind is a muscle and you would expect to have a great body without working out so why shoud anyone expect to be mentally agile without working their mind??? I have just started on the "open everyone I come across" part. It's bloody hard somtimes but the canned openers work so well its hard to believe until you actually do it... granted somtimes all I manage is the canned opener and get a responce then I'm stuck, but that there is a lesson!!!!

Nothing is a failure if you can learn from it!!!!!

Keep up the improvement dude and keep up these to posts!!!! :D

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5: Basic, simple, easy to remember “Cardinal Rules” I call them
1: Good eye contact
2: Smiling
3: Don’t lean in
4: Try for Kino off the bat
5: Speak slow and with conviction
I can't believe how true #3 is and how many times I have seen people doing it at bars. It just looks creepy.

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Thanks d3sign3r, thats really useful stuff, given me some ideas about how to start training.


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gooood stuff


could add Tapping to your list though. I fou8nd it pretty useful myself, and it's not like I've been doing it on a daily basis.. imagine if..

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Yeah good post. Exposure is definatelly a great way to get over a fear.

I also found helpful for overcoming my anxiety, was to meditate before going out, as this calms and relaxes me. This might not work for everyone else, but I recommend trying it.

If you have trouble doing it, you can actually join groups and do it for free (look up yoga or something in the phonebook), the downside is that they may try and teach you certain beleifs you may not wish to know, I just disragarded the stuff I didn't agree with.


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a pretty good base rule set

seriously people talk to everyone!
you'll be surprised who opens up
who'll you meet
and the interesting conversations you'll have


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I think being a "social person" is a good start. I would say that I fall into this category but as soon as sexual attraction comes into play a lot of my confidence disappears. this post was really informative, thanks


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nice post man, it helped me =]


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