You did neg too much, I agree with Sean you were a dick.

"Leave her better than you found her"

um, no, that's not it.

you acted like a dick. so man up and apologize if you want to have any shot with her.

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apparently she can't stop talking about me and how much she wants to see me, but she doesn't call...

She came over the other night with her friend, that my roommate likes, we watched a movie, I was in and out doing other things. It was 1am when I decide to go to sleep and they were getting ready to go around 1:15, I told her to come into my room real quick. I didn't really say much to her during the night.

As soon as she came in I kissed her, then kissed her again, then told her lets just be friends, and kissed her again.

She exclaimed "friends that kiss!"
I said "goodnight, cya later"

Apparently she doesn't know what to think, what to do, and she actually snapped her phone in half because she couldn't decide if she should call me or not.

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dude, what the fuck do you WANT with this girl?

cos it sounds to me like you have no idea. and she knows you have no idea, so she is gonna stay clear till you do, cos guys that don't know where they are going always fuck things up with women big-time.

you used pickup techniques designed to fuck a girl once in order to fuck her. and now you are trying to keep her around, but the way you started things makes that impossible unless you change the game.

keep torturing her, and she will keep torturing you. keep acting weird, and she will keep acting weird. so what do you want?

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Yeh agreed, I think you gotta start treating her how you want to be treated. If she doesn't like it and wants to stick with the asshole then she's stupid and you don't need her anyways.

If you just want to fuck her, then why worry, but if you want something more then you better start acting like it. For your sake...

Dude, what are your intentions with this chick?

-- If you just want her for a fuck, then she's going to keep coming back to you, as undecided as she is.

-- If you want to make her your GF, then stop negging her. Thats only the first phase, you know that.

It sounds like you want to date her, so you have to play the nice guy with an edge. Take her out, and steal her from her abusive BF. Its not so hard, trying be a little nice. It can do wonders.

will do. Ill drop by her work tomorrow before I go to work.

I want to be more than fuck buddies with her, although I have a feeling she just wanted me for my body.

She works at this little breakfast place. Since her phone is broken I have no other way to get in touch with her.

But say something along the lines of, I've got work in a little bit, but I want to take you out afterwards, so what do you say around 8 I pick you up.

or should I go with

I get off around 7, so why don't you swing by my house around 8, I have a few things that I need to do around the house, and then we can go from there.

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man this is one effed up situation

...not really

maybe not a common one, but I think it's fixable, and there is some attraction.

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I don't think you should invite her over, she'll think you just want to fuck her.
I would get her somewhere neutral, out of her comfort zone but not your place. Especially if thats where you put her away last time....

You need to be casual, but sincere in asking her out.

Just go by and ask her how shes been, then just say something like 'Say I'm looking for someone to have dinner with tonight... want to join me?'

I dunno, just be natural and show her some respect. That is if you want more than a fuck.

so I slept in today, but called her and left her a message. Told her "I just woke up, but I was thinking I get off work around 5, and then I'm going to go to the gym, but lets grab dinner after that"

I told my roommate who likes her friend that this morning and he called her friend, and arranged a double date for us. That's not what I wanted but whatever.

We go out to eat, at an order at the counter and then they bring it to your table. It's a fairly nice restaurant for dates since they pay for themselves.

My roommate was being emo about how the girl he likes doesn't answer his phone calls, and hangs up on him and he was just moping all night.

So my roommate really wants this girl to spend the night, and asked her atleast 5 times "are you going to come over" And she said "i don't know everytime"

When we left, I said I got a lot of stuff to do tonight, but why don't you come over for a little while.

They come over in seperate car, we hang out and go to the store because our tv remote broke.

I was a little annoyed that my roommate was acting like such an afc, so I walked ahead of everyone, and the girls ditched him.

I ended also buying some cigerates, I only smoke when I'm 1 drunk, or 2 extremely annoyed. So I smoked on the way back home, and the girl I like gets out of the car and I kiss her, and tell her I'm stealing her from her friend, and I'll take good care of her. I also said she had nice eyelashes earlier in the night.

So I was really trying to be nice, even when she first saw me she tried to give me a hug, and I said "how about a high five" Stupid me, I caught myself and said "come here you" and gave her a big hug.

So she was leaving tonight with her friend, and I forgot my cell phone in the car so I went out to get it, then I ran over to their car because they were just sitting there, talking about the night I assume.

So I hop in the backseat cause Im freezing outside, and say "im sorry I was so disrespectful to you, I know you had a boyfriend, and I didnt respect that, I'm sorry"

She said "it's fine we broke up, he was too immature"

I said "you know when I make love to a girl, its not just a one night thing, i don't have sex if I don't feel a connection with the girl, but I just want to know if it was a one night stand, or if there is something more, and when you didn't return my calls, i just didn't know how to feel"

She said "i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings I just didn't know what to do at the time"

So I asked "so does this mean we can hang out more"

She said "yes sir"

me "how am I suppose to contact you, i call you, you don't answer, I leave a message, you don't call me back, I text you, you don't write back"

her "my phone is always on silent, but I promise I will call you back"

I get out of the car, and go back to the gym, right before I get there I text her "I'm glad we talked, although I'm feeling kinda vulnerable now"

and she didn't write me back.

So I'm thinking she said that shit in the car, just to avoid what she really felt, or for me not to question her further.

She really doesn't know how to feel, cause I've sent her threw a rollercoasters of emotions.

She doesn't give a shit, but comes over for shits and giggles

She likes me kissing her, and then nothing coming of it.

What the fuck do I do puas

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ok, it's great you got real with her, but it sounds like just what you said... she's pretty emotionally unavailable, and that's not what you want.

her not calling or texting you back after saying she will is unacceptable. and that line about phone being on silent?

BULLSHIT!!! BIG RED ALERT!!!

when girls don't pick up their phone it's either cos they don't want to talk to you, OR, OR, OR, they have another dude.

you stepped up. that was bold. now take it all the way and lay it out for her. no anger, no annoyance, just tell her something like "i like you. i want to spend time with you. but people i hang out with call me, and answer my texts, and are straight with me. if you can't do that, i understand, but we can't hang out as friends or lovers or anything else. but no matter what, i'm happy we did have some time together. i'll always remember it with a smile."


be straight about what you need, but in a gentle way, and let her know it's cool no matter what happens.

if she can't come clean with you, she's just gonna yank you around forever.


and notice one subtle thing here... when you were a dick to her, she was all over you. but now you're a real man, and she's pulling away. so... you CAN get girls by acting like a dick... but it means you have to BE a dick. forever.


bad times.

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Agreed!

I think having your friend come along, and whinge and complain was a major mistake.

I'm wondering, if you told her she never answers your phone calls or replies to your msgs. How did you meet up, after leaving a voicemail in the morning?

And how did your roomate contact that other chick, if she never answers his call.

I think you should send your roomate somewhere to get some game. There is no way he should be asking a girl 5 times to comeover, during the duration of a date.... thats poor form.

Other than not bringing along your roommate. I don't you should have gone to ultra nice, I think trying to catch a girl like that, you need to graually change her. So be nice, but still keep some of your emotions and secrets from her. Because she has to be intrigued, no matter what kind of hb she is.

Seriously are you a PUA or a AFC?
You're playing the role of an AFC right now. You have another option.
You're a PUA, right? Right. PUAs don't lose we win game, right?
Win just to redeem yourself as a PUA and reduce her to the conquest
she was meant to be.
You guys are so busy gaming you're forgetting the fundamentals!
Mystery always says stick to the game plan coz it works. He says that for a reason. If you're PUA enuff do this:

She's been naughty. Very naughty. Seems 2 me you need 2 get her ass back in2 the compliance/punishment/reward combo. Remember that?

1. Check her compliance by seeing how far she is willing to go 4 u. Although it may be too late as you've given up to much value. Thats why compliance is so darned important. You can measure and manage her interest in you. You can try the 'friends goin out gambit' and ignore her all night while making sure she sees you with other girls in the power position as the AMOG. Then, make her friends want you. Remember you have to run hard game on here coz you lost too much value so you MUST open no less than 4sets or higher. I suggest a PIVOT as well. Women are jealous and want what other women want. Play off of that then see what happens. I still think you can win but you have to kick it up as if its semi-finals for The Pickup Artist and you goin home if you don't bring the goods.
2. Punish her by making her earn ur attention. Remember its a privilege to have you around.
3. Reward her with more attention when she complies and punish her with less when she doesn't. Cat-string theory remember? Roll her ass off HARD!!!

Guys don't forget to stick to basics they provide the foundation for sucess.

so I sent this to the girl in a text message "i like you. i want to spend time with you. but people i hang out with call me, and answer my texts, and are straight with me. if you can't do that, i understand, but we can't hang out as friends or lovers or anything else. but no matter what, i'm happy we did have some time together. i'll always remember it with a smile."

she didn't write back, I texted her friend "I feel so stupid for liking her"

She said "why"

I was at the gym, and my phone was in the car, so I didn't write back. I was at the gym for 4 hours tonight, and I get home, making a protein shake, and both of these girls show up, unannounced.

I'm a little annoyed, but I was trying to be nice.

I took a shower and left them in the room. We ended up watching a movie. I wanted to talk to her, and asked her if she wanted to cuddle in my room.

She said "no"

But when I put my arm around her she falls into position.

I just went into my room because I was pissed.

she came in to say bye

I said "can we please talk, I want to know if anything can come of us, because I feel like I'm wasting your time and mine."

She said "well it's too soon, I just broke up with my boyfriend, I mean it was like 4 days ago"

I told her "well that's fine, why don't you call me then"

and her and her friend left.

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