I've been talking to this girl for a few weeks now. Only talking. I tried setting up dates and stuff, but when I did she cancelled and asked to do it after New Years because her grandma was sick and needed to take care of her... Which, as my little sister pointed out to me, was probably a lie. Then I emailed her - one was a reply, the other was to check up on her because we hadn't talked in a few days. She said she was sooo busy and stuff... Goddamn liar! I was appearing offline on MSN because - that's what I usually do anyways. Then I saw her online for two or three hours before she logged off. I logged on and didn't talk to her to try pissing her off.

Anyways, it's been weeks and we haven't even had a FIRST DATE! Which pisses me off, but worse things have happened... So, how do you think I should end this because she's beginning to disrupt my inner game.

I've been thinking of saying things like, "FUCK YOU BITCH! FINE!"

and, "Okay, fine you're busy. I guess I'm too busy to talk to you ever again. If you're just going to keep lying and making up excuses and flaking, there's no place for you to do that to me, anymore.".

"I've been thinking about this a lot, and I don't think this is going to work out anymore. It's been weeks since I've seen you, and you're too busy lying. Have a nice life, you bitch."

Just don't do anything she sounds like shes not attracted to you just move on to the next girl, i wouldn't be unpleasant just stay friends she might have some hot friends.

Dude its only a msn girl, go out and sarge for real.

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Why So Serious?

She was from when I sarged for real... I just email closed. But yeah, I guess I should just forget about her - I've been through a girl screwing up my game... Then I met this girl - who ruined my game again. Fuck.

Wow wow wow, what you are doing is super needy.

And if you will be so reactive on her - call her names blaa blaa blaa, you are making you sound really low value, and will basically fuck it up forever.

Ok.About that what you should do.
Doing nothing like topliner said could work, but I don't think that it would get you any closer to her, she will just ignore you back and forget all about you, believe me.

What I would do -
Talk to her normally, don't offend her - shes just politely saying shes not interested, DON'T try to ask her out, but after a few conversations insert a jealousy plotline . Ask her an advice regarding a new hot girl you just met and are going out. I'm on a hangover now so i won't be able to tell you everything should say. It just has to sound realistic. And not like bragging but just has to be a "by the way" question after a few minutes chit-chat.

ohh .. there is so much to to tell you Im just to tired ... will write the whole thing a lil bit later.

But short:

Then you talk to her and you tel her a bout an really cool place where your going, tell her everything in details. She will think you're asking her out but you just don't ask that and you talk another minute or more and just change the subject and and end the conversation.

Then lets say a day later or whatever you could say : "I got an idea remember the event I told you about, well I wanted to ask my friend Sarah to join me but then i see you online now and I thought we have alot to catch up!"

Have good thoughts think positive and this stuff will get you up with her again just DON'T BE SO NEEDY

Interesting. Well, that's pretty helpful already. I knew everything I've needed to know about pick-up until now... Hmm. I knew there was something missing.

But in the conversations it seemed like she was interested in me... She said she was, wanted to get together, and we talked about kinky sex. But I guess she's giving me mixed signals or just playing around or some shit. Well, I think I'm just going to take a breather today and relax - I don't want to think about pick-up or girls for a while... Actually, I think I should always just focus on doing what makes me happy. I'm going to go play in the little bit of snow that's left, and warm myself up a pot of coffee.

Happy New Year, and carry on - I'd like to ear more.
Roxstar

I'm not too sure I need help anymore because she just invited me to a rave.

I adapted your advice, and I opened her on MSN saying, "shit do you know anything about medicine? I can't move mmy left arm "

Then she was really worried, and typed out medical advice pretty quickly. I over-exaggerated a lot. I just took a nap after working out, and I just woke up and somehow (I was sleeping on my right arm) my left arm had no circulation. It was awkward to move, and tingly.

Then I carried on the conversation as if we were good friends, except I typed slower because I wanted to give the impression of only having one hand typing. It made things a lot funner although, it was just a little bit of an excuse to take my time and escalate quickly.

No you let your self ruin your game as you let this girl get to you. If I was you I would be talking to other girls at the rave and basically "punishing" her for her bad behavior she had recent and pull away.

Ok, not that I have a problem roxstar but I'm not sober again , I'm in allot of projects lately working together with artists and after a done job we are going out for a drink ... ok what ever.

I'm glad I could help, not that i want to mix in into your relationship, but I wouldn't go on the rave with her, you are being to easy to get! - Think about it, she has rejected you a few times with excuses and lying, but after the first time she asks you your right in.

And again:

What I would do -
You have a lot going on lately and on that night your busy because you are taking Shara to the theater! And again IT HAS TO SOUND REAL AND POSSIBLE, give details about the Opera or theater peace - let it sound interesting.

I know it will be hard, but only risking loosing her is the right way.
Remember she has to qualificate to be honored with meeting you

True, but I already brought up that I had other plans and it better not interfere with them. It didn't though... -.-' But I guess I could just lie.

Also, I was going to go along with the other plan where I just go there, then flirt with other girls to punish her. And now it's just getting fucking ridiculous because now you're telling me to do the exact same thing back. It's going to take forever just to set up a date. But yeah, you're right. Hmm, hard decision. If I go tonight then will she be the balls? I hope not. Well, I guess it depends on what I go there to do. I was going to go there to punish her, not to hang out. I saw the list of invites and some of the girls are pretty cute... Uggghhh, this is starting to get annoying.

I think that going there with her as my wing will probably accomplish the same thing as if I didn't go. In both cases I, at least seemingly, have more girls than just her. One is more personally aloof, and the other one is mysteriously aloof... They both seem like viable options. I think I'd rather date now, and game other girls at the same time.

I also remembered something a little while after my last post - I would've written it, but I was in the shower.

Tension Loop. This is like a tension loop on a little higher scale. I'm emotionally pulling her in by taking the invite. Then I push her away by hitting on other girls. Then I pull her back in by introducing her to new people, and by hanging out with her. Then I can repeat as many times as needed. I'm not sure if I can really have great conversations, but I escalate real quickly to cut out all the crap, like 20 minutes of useless conversation, anyways.

If I don't go out with her then my resolution to the loop would be by taking the invite, cancelling, and letting the tension go on for days. Then I bring resolution by asking her out. Then she brings tension back by lying and cancelling again, or finally caving and letting there be resolution.

The first one acts more suddenly, it's a little more personal, and I actually get to date her sometime in the very near future.

She'll also be qualifying by showing that she's funner than every other chick - I'll make sure of it. She'll have to fight for my attention if she's not interesting... Well, even if she is then she'll still have to. She's going to have to risk losing me to other girls.

Third scenario I should've seen coming.

Okay, well she just cancelled, then I went with the other plan. I said I knew she was going to cancel, and that's why I already set up another date. Yeah... I want to let this one go - she's starting to annoy me. But she also invited me to another, which was when I went with the plan where I don't say yes immediately. She wants me to keep her posted about my plans... I'll think about this.

I'm still going to hit on other girls too.