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uhm i need help with picking up classmates in high school please lol Im really really shy especially around girls. so id appreciate any help = )


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Totally agree with the comment on less negs.
Just seems that they wont take it well.


Anyone got good high school openers though? I got none, I just got back from a new years party, tried to think of openers to use on some girls from another school that came with a friend of mine but I drew a blank. Guys got any tips?

Seems like its twice as hard to get anywhere if u arent drunk.


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Uhh.... Are you serious? Negs work really well, and openers are a stupid idea if you just want to meet girls at school - it should hardly even qualify as pick-up.

Teasing, and playing around is really fun - I do it a lot, and I turn it sexual. Openers... How about saying, "Hi?" You're in school, a friendly enviroment where people have tribe mentality. If you use an opinion opener, you should just slap yourself now. Maybe asking about their holiday, weekend, or school.

A question I've asked before is, "What are the names of all the oceans...? I forgot." Then she tried naming all of them, and I went from there. I've also said, "Hey". And, "Hey Babe!". They're fine... Depending if you're already sexual with the girl, or you just want to know what the oceans are. I genuinely didn't know the oceans, and decided to ask them what they are.

When you're by your friends be happy to see them again. Don't just stand there emotionless saying, "...Hey, man.". Be glad to see them. Be fun. I've made up new handshakes with girls where our hands explode on contact, and we say, "Pfffffssshh". It's fun, and I was just fooling around making explosions with both of my hands, and tried it on a cute girl who was watching me do it. I put my fist out, she did the same, then our hands collided.

I've opened in the library saying, "Bless you" when a girl sneezed.

I opened a girl, saying , "Hey"
She was pleasant for a while, then started to shit test me.
I didn't react, and commented on her blonde hair saying, "Wow, you're always in such a good mood." And, "It must be your blonde hair, when you look into the mirror it's like the sun's shining, and it lightens up your mood."
Then escalated saying, "Hey, what's that book about?"
The girl really liked the book, and it was about twins.
I asked, "Oh really? Cool. What's your favourite part?"
She was already pretty sexual with me, but she brought up sex and said, "When their step-father goes into their bedroom and touches their vaginas. At the same time."

There you go... Sex talk instantly.

From there I could've gone into double-binds, sexual frames etc.

I've taken down the ice queen of the school, and managed to get her to have a huge crush on me. Although she still pisses me off and makes me pass shit tests regularly - her actions say it all. We've even shared really tender moments, and played footsie in French class.

If there's one thing I can say about high school it's learn to pass shit tests. The next is to base your actions on, "How can I have the most fun?". Of course you can have priorities like homework... Which I only have if I'm doing bad in that subject, but you can still have fun doing them. If you manage to do that, then tell me. I usually just listen to music when I'm doing things.

On the car-ride to school I listen to subliminal self-confidence things by Zygon called the Supercharger Mindlab. It works well. But before I got it, I listened to Creature by Atreyu, Enter Sandman by Metallica, Diary of Jane by Breaking Benjamin, Come On by Bonecrusher, and things that got me in a crazy fun, energetic, happy mood. Sometime I'd be listening to other songs to be congruent with my energy level that day, but I'd tend to listen to loud, fast songs. I have also listened to Swinggcat, and Christian Hudson's Hidden Mic. Swinggcat gives me tools to use throughout the day, and Christian's Hidden Mic makes me feel like I've already been part of a conversation, and it went really great. When I'm in the car, I start getting the nervous, hot feeling right away to get it out of my system. Once you've passed that nervous point, you get in the zone - it's true of any pick-up. You approach 5 girls nervous, then you approach a 6th one with bravado.

It shouldn't even be called pick-up... It's more like being on Survivour - don't get voted off the island. People don't base your status on owning a bar. People base your status on consistent association by the people they perceive as cool, or that they like. You don't have to hang out with everyone... I don't like to - it's inconsistent, and I enjoy the people's company I hang out with. We've created a strong bond, and they're my best friends. You don't really get that if you're a drifter like in the club.

Girls will sleep with the least worst decision. They will sleep with the cooler guy. Same of regular pick-up... But on the street they have less evidence.

The street is quite different from school.

In school, it's okay to go straight from not knowing each other to being boyfriend and girlfriend. On the street... Not so much, and you can one-night-stand girls. In school you get a bad reputation... Or she does, and you can look and feel like a douchebag.

I don't care about burning too many bridges at my school - it's filled with a bunch of damn losers. I only show respect to people who have earned it. The easiest way to earn it initially is to be nice, and once you're friends with me don't fuck with me. I've ran one kid out of the school for talking shit to me over MSN - he's lucky he hid by the teachers - and everyone else, lying about his entire life, and spreading rumours about me like I'm bi-polar. Apparently he moved countries too, but I doubt it. I hope so, but it doesn't even really matter - I don't miss him. And at first me and my friends were using him for homework help... but then we became friends. He's a little bit of a pussy for not stopping us, though. But I guess I started this. Still, that's what he gets for fucking with me and my friends - even HIS "friends".

Don't be shy to talk to people, and be decisive. Be a leader of the group. Me and my friends are all leaders, and when you get together we command each other's respect - as well as everyone else's.

Groom Yourself. This was a flaw of mine... I thought I was being elitist, but I just looked like a bumhole. I had shaggy hair, when I was in elementary school didn't take showers often, and created my own style of peacocking... However, it created the effect of me looking weird. instead of cool. In grade nine, my friend straightened his hair one day, and that finally gave me an idea - straighten my hair. It's naturally wavy, and puffs up. Now I use products, and straighten it every morning, and it looks great. I also cut my nails when the get long. I also got my hair dyed, which is also like peacocking.

Haters are inevitable. I have a few, but I'm friends with their friends. So they can suck a nut. I've had friends stolen, and stolen friends.

My biggest hater (that I'm aware of) is the ice queen. She openly makes fun of me (shit tests) and I used to fail them miserably. Now I can defend myself. If you want to get better at this then look up insults on the internet, if you get burned then think of a few different responses later and write them down, get in the right mood - playful, and uncaring, possibly confused. If I put in a real effort, I could probably get her to open up to me - but it sounds like a shit-load of work. I put in the minimum amount of effort for the maximum results - don't burden yourself. If you find a better way, then take it... Why walk around a river than go across if you have the means.

Do not go with the flow. Be the flow. You say what is cool or not, do not let other's opinions affect you because although what they think is fine and all, you decide what you like. If someone says, "Oh I like so and so band." and you don't, then say so. Don't be a pussy... Don't say it in a bad way, say, "Ha! Really?? They suck ;P". Not, "HA! They SUCK! LOSER!" Well... I guess this depends on their energy level.

I've had a kid started trying to play around and fight me in the hall when I'm just mellow, and standing around. He can't read people or take a hint... I have him a couple dirty looks, and he just kept going. I just ignored him and kept talking to my friend, then he eventually stopped.

Make friends with naturals. I did, and I observed the shit out of them. Now I'm on their level after only 1 year, although I studied and tried new things. But really, I went from mediocre-high to High-status selective. I pick my friends now. And I pick the one's I like.

My Old Style of Peacocking. Before I even knew this existed I knew I had to stand out. In elementary school it was having a calculator and spelling things out with it like 55378008 - Boobless. That was grade... 6 or 7? And when I dressed up (I went to private schools, and didn't always dress in regular clothing) I wore a bluish leather vest (which actually looked pretty good... But it was my older sister's). I sometime's wore touques because I was also a dancer back then, and tried doing head-spins. I wore dragon shirts - it was like a dress shirt but made of soft material and blue with gold dragons - and in the collar I wore a tie. I was unorthodox and fucking proud of it. In high school, for grade eight I did some growing up and started out doing the vest and touque still, but then I moved onto my gangster stage... I think? Not sure, that might've been grade nine too. But I got an Ecko coat that was waaayy too big for me, and G-Unit jeans. The jeans are still nice and I wear them a lot. The coat... It's just ridiculous. In the middle of grade nine I also moved into a classier look and started wearing a blazer by Redsquad. Redsquad jackets usually have a fake jacket inside to create a layered look. I also wore an iron necklace or something with a snake chain, and a Kanji symbol meaning Tiger. I'm Asian... So I pulled it off. In grade ten now. I wore the blazer a lot, now I wear a turtleneck/hoodie also by Redsquad.. It's really nice, and girls have really responded to it.

Voice. Well... Be loud, project, and don't be monotone. That's basically. In gym class we were asked to count out how many baskets we got and I was the only one on the MENS... Well, Me and everyone else... Yelling it out. The others just kind of yelled. I was surprised the ice queen who's in my gym class didn't yell - maybe she's intimidated by me - but she's usually loud, and proud. I've had massive crushes on her for not being easy, but I knew if hated her it just wouldn't work. She screwed my game up for a long time... And I couldn't even close with girls who really liked me because U kept thinking of her. eventually it lessened up, and I finally got over her by picking up a girl in a beauty supply store. Off-topic, but it might be helpful.

Scents. Well, some girls just like natural scents. I guess I do... but not burps, farts, and BO. I go with Eternity by Calvin Kline, some cologne by YSL, I forgot the name of one. And for Christmas U got a bottle of SEX PANTHER - yes, the one from Anchorman. It's a manly scent, and doesn't smell bad. But I didn't really want it for the scent, I wanted it because it was hilarious. I also have a deodorant stick of Eternity, so I have mixed cologne scents sometimes. I also got things by Old Spice just in case I ever needed them on the go. Minty fresh breath is also needed. I hate looking at people with bad teeth... It's gross. I brush my teeth, bring mints, bring gum (one or the other most of the time), and I have one everytime I'm done doing something that would make my breath smell, or the scent wears off. Like eating onions or candy, then I drop a mint. The minty smell wears off - drop another mint. Bad breath kills... And I just stand back, hold my breath, or walk away. Sometimes I jold up my box of mints to them without saying anything - they get the message.

Muscles. Well, I like having muscles, and I never train with weights at the gym. I use completely body-weight training and I've never been stronger, or gained more muscle, or been more ripped. And 've only been doing this for a month... As opposed to years of training the other way. They aren't really mandatory, but I give myself every advantage I can. And I'm also a fighter.

That reminds me of my new style of Peacocking. Actually... This one hit me when I was in elementary school, but I still carry it out. Ninja. I'm like 99% filipino, but I look japanese (and I'm like 1/200th japanese), and part Spanish. My username comes from my last name. I've been in films being a ninja, I've parkoured around the school on film, done stunts for plays. And I dressed up like a ninja for something called Spirit Week... We dress up in different clothing themes, and I chose to go as a ninja. This one hit me in elementary because I'm Asian, and I could fight. I also (before I knew what parkour was) started doing it around my playground. And in grade 9 i loved the anime Naruto. I watched like, every single episode until I stopped, and read the manga's.

Athletics. Girls like athletic guys... Who would prefer a nerd who doesn't get active instead of an interactive, energetic guy? Well... Maybe low-energy nerds.

Body Language is pretty standard, and you need to keep it up all day.

Attitude, and technique are also standard - keep them above all else. Without them, body language is incongruous. Plus, a lot of the time if you have this, then it will affect your body language anyways... The exception would be if you're weak and lazy, or if you have an injury/defect.

Rules. There are no rules... Only guidelines.

There is no absolute guide, and there isn't one style. Mine is classier than others, sexual, unorthodox, and eccentric.

These are my experiences, and what I've learned. Take what you will, it works for me. I can always improve, and I always am.

Some of my favourite tools are sexual frames, and storytelling.





Good luck you guys. This was a long post... But I had nothing else to do. Having a mellow New Year this year. And my Resolution is to flirt with 7 (preferably different, and strangers) everyday for the entire year. Then maybe continue that for 5 years total. That would bring me to 12000 ish approaches. Which is more than Sinn has right now, at about 8000. I'm sure if I can carry this out then I will be an absolute monster.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!


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Thats some good stuff ^^^^

I always wondered what you should open with and I figured what you aid would work being your in school with these people. Simpler is better. I can't see asking many of those opinion questions unless there basic or about school. And I definitely can't see using the "i'm gay" approaches.

Shit-tests is what I need to know. I've gotten these a lot and sometimes I pass, sometimes I feel like I think to hard. Where can I find the best answers for these? I'm still really new to all this.

btw: whats sexual frames?


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roxstar that some real shit right there. Im gonna go out with a mindset based on that more often


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Thank you very much, it took me like an hour and a half to write that post.

3V0, I talk about shit tests a little bit in the last post. I would start by looking up burns on the internet, watching shows with witty humour - actually, 300 has some pretty good scenes with some of the guys burning each other back and forth. I watch Smallville and they have some good flirting, and banter. Desperate Housewives is a great show - filled with a bunch of guile and manipulation. 90210 - also good, but I don't like those teen soaps... I hear Gossip Girl is a good show, not sure if it would apply though.

I could also give you a list of things girls have said to me before, and possible responses. You need to be fluid, creative, and fun. You do these, and you basically control their frame.

Sexual frames are like frames - the underlying meaning - but their underlying meaning is sexual. One good one is that she's a pervert and only wants to get in your pants.

Sexually aggressive.
No matter what her reaction - she's in love with you still.
We would be the hottest couple in the school.
If we had sex it would be really hot and sexy and amazing.

And so on... I'm not sure if most of those would count as frames, but that's what I try to convey. You could probably get a better definition of it from somebody else.

I also don't like making fun of people's deep interests because it's important to them, and I respect that.


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So my approach anxiety is at 250%. Anysurefire ways to get over this? I feel this is the ONLY thing keeping me from being a real PUA

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I hear you, man. I used to get soo nervous when I was talking to a girl I liked - I couldn't utter a single word without stuttering, and I would look down in shame. To make things worse I also wrote poetry about her - but I became a celebrity because of it... So it could've been worse.

My way was to gradually start talking to more people and get used to feeling nervous - and getting past it. There are many methods of eliminating (to some degree) approach anxiety. Or, getting used to it.

1. What makes you nervous besides talking to girls? Do that, and get past it. I used to be super afraid of heights, then I was forced to stay on the tenth floor of a hotel. I also got into parkour - so now I jump off of heights. I'm an actor too - and before I perform I get nervous. At times I thought I would literally crap myself, and it's a good thing I didn't drink anything before the performance or else I would've needed to pee. I got over ALL the nervousness after my first few lines, and I nailed it. The repeat performance later, I got through the entire thing without being nervous at all. Even the next day, I felt great and still had no nervousness.

And do that hobby instead of talking to girls... You won't make a bad impression on a person - you'll just be trying to do what makes you happy.

The confidence can be transferred.

And as I said in the big post:
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On the car-ride to school I listen to subliminal self-confidence things by Zygon called the Supercharger Mindlab. It works well. But before I got it, I listened to Creature by Atreyu, Enter Sandman by Metallica, Diary of Jane by Breaking Benjamin, Come On by Bonecrusher, and things that got me in a crazy fun, energetic, happy mood. Sometime I'd be listening to other songs to be congruent with my energy level that day, but I'd tend to listen to loud, fast songs. I have also listened to Swinggcat, and Christian Hudson's Hidden Mic. Swinggcat gives me tools to use throughout the day, and Christian's Hidden Mic makes me feel like I've already been part of a conversation, and it went really great. When I'm in the car, I start getting the nervous, hot feeling right away to get it out of my system. Once you've passed that nervous point, you get in the zone - it's true of any pick-up. You approach 5 girls nervous, then you approach a 6th one with bravado.
If you don't have an iPod or CD's then just do this exercise:

3. Visualize what a confident man does. What does he say, and how does he say it? Imagine yourself walking up to somebody, and imagine saying something with confidence. Imagine it escalating. Now start over and go all the way back up to that point, and now imagine going even further - and taking the conversation sexual and her little paws all over you. Then the bell rings - and she's looking all sad, then you, with all your confidence, start up another conversation. Then it's up to you to decide if you want to end it early, or if you want to skip class and talk.

4. Another way, which works out fine - and can help pound out negative beliefs - is to do affirmations.

Write down (these are the ones that I used to write to out pound out negative beliefs. I got these from Cory Skyy.):

It's Okay.
I love women.
Women love me.
I deserve to have beautiful women in my life.
I am comfortable having women in my life.
I am a sexually desirable man.
Woman want to fuck me everywhere I go.
I am fearless. Fuck fear!
I am the prize.
Talking to beautiful women is easy.
I show unconditional love everywhere I go.
I can do anything.
This is my life - nobody tells me how to live it.
Everybody I talk to loves talking to me.

Pick out seven of these and write them out 15 times. This made me ambidextrous, and I got less nervous and eliminated negative beliefs.

5. Gratitude.

Take a regular piece of lined paper out, and fill out about half of it with things you are are grateful for beginning with, "I am grateful for...". Do not write things like, "I am grateful for not...", or do it seldomly because if you concentrate or what you didn't want then it tends to come back.

6. Mirror.

Look at yourself in the mirror, and repeat the written affirmations - plus anymore you can think of. This one is really helpful because it also helps you develop intuitive eyes. The intuitive eyes are what naturals use to see what a person is feeling based on the emotion in their eyes. I listen to music while I'm doing this - music with a positive message. Not things that have sad lyrics, or low-energy. Music like I said before - in Enter Sandman I would think of myself as The Beast, and have demonic confidence. There is also another trick and a method to this...

These fall under the categories of Real World and Theoretical Confidence. I write about this in a book I'm working on... And both are good for increasing your confidence.

7. There is also knowledge and wisdom.

Reading books like A New Earth and The Power of Now have helped me be in the moment, and given me insight and spiritual knowledge. They are by Eckhart Tolle, and they're very good.

8. The Vision Mapping Process.

This is a pretty long process and I'm going to condense it to save time... I want to watch some South Park.

This process has 5 steps:
Step 1: List the Most Important Areas of Your Life.
Step 2: List the Most Important Dreams in that Area.
Step 3: Get a New Piece of Paper for Each Important Area and List the Dreams and Goals.
Step 4: Goals to Steps. On the Back, or at the Bottom, List the Steps to Achieve the Goals. Take More Complex Steps, and Break them Down into Tasks that Need to be Completed.
Step 5: Assign Target Completion Dates to Each Step and Task. Achieve Goals One Task at a Time.

I'm going to finish this post with the definition of TRUE Hope.

True Hope:
The confident belief that a specific vision, goal, desire, or promise will be achieved or fulfilled within a specified amount of time.

There is also a piece of information that works as nuclear rocket fuel to achieve each goal in the minimal amount of time.


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Oh, and if you have any other questions I will answer them through a PM. I am also going to decide if I want to keep these posts up permanently, or not.

And if any of you would like to be an associate in the products I'm creating then by all means, speak up. I would also like someone to help me market this - I'm more of an idea person... I don't want to have to build the entire thing ground-up. That's too much work. I know the processes to market them, but I also can't really carry them out without burning myself out... Writing and creating entire products, concepts, names, AND trying to market them? That would take me years to release it.

South Park time.

Looking forward to talking to you again,
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hey again thanks a lot for the info. Im definitely going to try these exercises to boost my game

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