I seem to be getting better at flirting and kiss closing women but i seem to mess up past that point i think i am too eager afterwards. Which leads to me feeling like shit, going oh she was nice but i fucked it up.

I get too attached too early in other words, but i would like to try and improve this and get the girls that i want, past the make out seen.

play more then one girl at once, and you forget the other girls whoile with each one

Yea thats what i do man. Im only trying to improve on using these techniques to get the girls i want but it shouldn't hurt trying it out on one girl first. You know, to get a boost of confidence before you decide to get the one you want. I may be wrong but thats what im just focusing on.

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classic stuff man... newbie mistake is to get to exictied to early. This will pass with more kiss closes but to help you along the way I would say.

during the make out session,
1. tell her to "slow down... take a break, we're not there yet darling" then ask her a playful question "how far does she think this is going to go" "where did you learn to kiss like that"... "tell her that another guy is checking her out...." and then point over to some real AFC and ask if she wants an introduction....

in short, be the one to stop it for a while, and not let her know where its going. build some tension. guys are always trying to push to the next level. be different, slow it down.

Mystery (i think) talks about a date within a date and its a great point. 2 locations in one night. Stop the make out and say lets take a walk, stand up and offer your hand. Move to a second place (another dark corner, the bar a coffee shop, another bar across the road). to start the make-out again, just ask her to show you her neck.... necks are f'in sexy (i think so anyway) and then just start kissing it again.

once thats done, then just say, right, time to get you home, stand up and take her hand and lead her out.

good luck.