Actually going out with a bi girl i learned a lot about women that straight girls never tell to guys.Usually lesbian/bi girls make the best wing/pivot you could find!

girls... girls... girls...

I'm completely overwelmed by this thread... haha

Dre - nice to meet you, I appreciate what you've done here trying to make a lesbian thread - but I think we've gone a little astray with the opener - you've bolded, made red, and called out the fact that you are actually excluding all the men and women on the site that are not lesbian. I understand that was not the intention, and perhaps we can try and work out a conversation in which all walks of sexuality can openly discuss how game can be played by women towards women, and that certain social principals are unanamous and effective across the board.

I'm a PUA in NYC and a lesbian - I've found in my long history with women, as I'm sure many men have - certain obstacles need to be overcome.

Lets break down the "getting a kiss on the cheek"
You are very cute, that is going to work for you - being a fem-ish lesbian with confidence in a gay bar is about all you need to get the bi-highschool girls and kinder-dykes all over your shit. Excellent.
**What I draw from that - that can be used to help other people, is to make yourself appear non-threatening, and not be afraid to playfully insinuate you would like a reward for your attention.

Next lets talk about the "do i look gay" game.

I've never tried it, so i cant knock it, but i dont see it being replicable or effective. On the other hand, i do not advocate running up to strangers and shoving your sexual preference down their throat in the first few moments of your interaction.

You wouldnt expect a man to tell a target that he prefers blow jobs as his sexual preference in an opener, thus, you need not tell your target your preference is lady lovin'

Let them find you first, develop a friendship - a romantic friendship -
you can give your target fuck me eyes without actually letting them know you want to fuck them. You can touch them lightly, and sit a little too close and build an intimacy based on respect and good conversation - and once she's built trust and or interest with you - you can begin to "let your guard down" and reward her with a personal detail.

That being said, I'm glad there are other women who love women on this site, it brings a great variety to the threads, and we can all use a new prospective to help us with our game.

I also think it just goes to show, how far we've come socially that we can all work together in our pursuit of beautiful women... tollerance, and social grace.

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so i think this would be where i would post this...

I'm a butch lesbian and i'm looking to figure out how i would wing for my friend. should i start out using straight guy techniques? but that kinda feels like i'm lying... so i guess i don't really know how i should wing. got ideas anyone?
-Soatb23

I am a PUA in Houston, Tx. An androgynous lesbian, and my, is this interesting. The question I would like to pose to everyone is this...

What do you think of the way LESBIANS in particular prefer to be approached. I think that you girls know what I mean when I say that lesbians do not THINK like straight girls. You do have to tweak this game a bit.

The game works quite well on bi-girls and straight girls and they are quite easy to pick up with or without game. Being "female naturals" and all. However, what I would like to see some dialogue on is, the complexity and bullshit that comes with picking up a lesbian.

Its a challenge, a fun one...which is why after picking up enough easy curious girls, there is a taste for a challenging hunt of a lesbian that needs to be fulfilled.

Next question:
How does one do this without breaking a girls heart because you dont uhaul either.

How do you get your intention across without seeming like a slut or a player?

The lesbian community is a small, small world. How do you do this without developing a negative reputation. The word gets out quick!

Remember....lesbians think differently. They see through the shit!

Please respond, argue, debate, agree, what have you. I look forward.

Iris

If you want advice on how to wing for your friend, I need some details about your friend and what kind of girls she likes.

IE. if she's very femme, and likes butch girls - then its going to be more of a "buddy" technique between you and the target, establishing a friendship and introducing your femme friend to your butch buddy.

If she's also butch - HOW butch in comparison to you?

If she's more or equally butch as you, and youre targeting a very femme girl, I might need to talk to you individually, theres a decent formula for this - but way too long to type out if its not nessisary.

Basically - whats your buddy like? Email me - we'll work it out and post the resolution here later. Staceyjaxx@gmail.com

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a) i find this amusing. women are not all naturals at PU. but, on the other hand, most of them don't really do the picking-up...

and) i'm not a lesbian, can i still post here?

3) i really like the gay game. sounds like it'd be really fun for a group and would really put people at ease right away. good way to find intentions as well.

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I have always wondered about this, and, if you will pardon the interruption, now might be a good time to put this forth, as you ladies might have a guesstimate... In you opinion, about what percentage of straight women have lesbian thoughts/fantasies? I believe that it is a pretty high percentage...Somewhere in the 80%, give or take. I have discussed this with several (straight) women, and they all say that it's much lower.

I think its definately higher then they'd admit!

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I am very curious as to what you girls have to say about girls picking up girls.

I am a straight female and honestly I don't think gaming is necessary if you are a lesbian. You are on the same level as her so it cant be difficult. Whereas a dude picking up a girl can come off as threatening. He is bigger, stronger, seeks sex out more, etc etc. Maybe you can shed some light??

Tipper...check out the Kinsey Report

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Not a PUA just a girl offering my opinions/advice

I think you're wrong on the not needing game... It's entirely dependant on your level of aggressiveness. Yes you can use the fact that you're a girl to put other girls at ease... Bu you still have to be smooth.

Lesbians have the same approch anxiety as boys, many of the rules of attraction and social dynamics apply.

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I tend to agree with StacyJaxx... If we MEN need game to attract women, then to me, it seems like it'd be even harder for women to do it.
I mean, if I were gay, I wouldn't even begin to guess how to attract guys, and especially one's who may or may not be straight.
Of course, women are cooler about that kinda stuff than men. If one guy makes a pass at another, he might find himself getting up off the floor, but I'd say that most women wouldn't get physical about it.

FlyPM... That could be used as a survey opener kinda likesome of the ones Mystery and Neil Straus used..."What % of women do you think have lesbian fantasies"

Ok, one more question, and I'll let you ladies get back to your thread...
I know a woman who doesn't watch any kind of porn, and doesn't talk much about sex unless she is doing it... She says she has zero lesbian fantasies, but I think she is lying. ( She used to work with a lesbian, and got kinda upset when she found out that she (the lesbian) had been kissing a co-worker...But she doesn't say anything bad about lesbianism, or people she knows are gay/lesbian... I think she wanted to be the one getting kissed)Any suggestions about how I could test her to find out the truth? I'm even thinking about having a woman hit on her in a bar, just to see how she reacts.

Tipper - why are you obsessed with finding out if this chick is a lady lover?

I suggest just leaving the topic alone, if she's not and you keep trying to "get it out of her" you're going to push her away and have NO shot at closing her.

If she IS, you're really pushing the personal boundaries line and could make her really uncomfortable. If she's not ready to talk about her feelings, there's no reason to trick or spy or try to find.

You're a handsome avitar - haha - find a new girl to figure out

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