Last night was pretty amazing for me, I went to a ANOTHER singles party and literally owned the place. I was "vibing" with everyone and it seemed that i literally had the pick of the litter of girls that were there because I was the life of the party, even some of the barmaids were having a go, perhaps more subtle then the rest.... but they were! this brings me to my question, ofcourse while im doing this im being C&F ya know, which is kind of in my nature anyway. so Im saying alot of things that, if they were said in another setting or by someone else mayve earned a good smack in the mouth. Now, there was this girl sitting on a doublechair, and next to her was a newspaper so I jokingly said "Imma read this, cos i bet its more interesting then you!" with a wry smile. now she laughed it off but here comes the wannabe alphamale right on cue! "why do you come here to insult girls? " basicly rattling off a whole lot of stuff like ive gotta be nice to get success and its not how it "works". (i was thinking, obviously not a fan of Dave Deangelo),. so i asked the girl if she was insulted and she laughed and said ofcourse not.. and I also said "dude, no offence but i dont need anyone to tell me how it works"...lol. Now, a part of life is that these wannabe alphamales will pop up from time to time whenever i interact with girls and if Im gonna be cocky and funny there gonna try to bring it down with the "AFC" vibe. what is the best way to neutralise them?

. . . I've seen some movies lately where film makers have exaggerated and made fun of cocky/funny pick up to the point of idiotic insults so maybe that's where you guys are picking up this crap but I just don't understand why so many of you can't seem to understand the difference between cocky/funny, negs, and INSULTS.

What you told the girl is just a boring insult. How did your comment make her want to qualify herself to you? How did this escalate her attraction to you? How did you expect this one liner to help you continue conversation into intimate topics?

A simple neg would have been more to the tune of, "Come on . . . Did you bring today's crossword puzzle to the party with you? Move over Ms. Nerdy. . . "

Cocky Funny would have been more to the tune of, "You're at a party and you're checking out the personals? Move over hot stuff, I'll help you find your fuck buddy."

Seriously, if you really are "cocky/funny", wannabe alpha males or whatever you call them will also be able to sense the "tease and flirt" in your words and will be much less likely to get hostile. But if they do . . .

"How I talk to her is up to me. How she talks to me is up to her. Whether you want to continue playing conversation police is up to you . . . but the two of us are having a private conversation now."

you have a point. I already had banter with thaat one particluar chic and we had danced and everything beforehand so it wasnt an opener as such but yeah,m it may have been a bit tactless. everything i said to other people worked out that night so i guess i gotta still engage the brain first.

Great job, there are a lot of tricks for this, some are mean and not like me though. For example if there is you and another guy going for the same girl, and he aproaches with a joke, give him a blank stair then a fake sounding laugh 3-4 seconds delayed, like it was really lame/not funny unless of course the girl is cracking up. Negging the guy may or may not work depending on the girl, but if shes negging him on some thing hes peacocking I wouldn't follow unless you have a clever joke regarding it. Also the $ bit works well and its simple, remember pulling a wad of $100's from one pocket to the next works great, this works well if the $ is in the pocket with your phone pull them both out together like the cash came out on accident, and while the phone is out, you could go as far as picking it up (with no one on the line and say excuse me for a second) "Oh hey Jenna, whats up, nah I'm out at this club/____ maybe next time I'll go, who's all with you, is it girls night out or what, how many car's do you need for that many people, alright take care"

HAHA sounds so lame right? This is really desperate shit that will work though, make sure the girl can hear you though. Imagine pulling a grand out of your pocket with your phone ringing with 20 girls on the line trying to get you to go out with them, "eh just some friends"

Just remember I would be loyal enough not to try and steal/interior with a male and a set if he is really escalated with his target, that is just not cool. Total diff story if he approaches you guys or your target set though. good luck.

DB2012,

Are you drunk?

Has a single bit of that been field tested by anyone other than a pimp? or 50 cent?

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That's just a little too much to do.. All i do is pull out a few pieces of gum and Magnum's by accident infront of the girl when I'm going to get the number. That's says more than 100 dollar bills hahaha

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it's all in delivery, kasabi. i have to say, this COULD be a serious insult and hurt some girl. but if a guy came up to me and snatched my newspaper and in a rather light-hearted voice said "i'm gonna read this paper cause it's probably more interesting than YOU!!" with a smile, i would not be offended. whether it is a joke or not is in the delivery.
i would, however, request the newspaper back.

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No, this line could never be a serious insult as it is rather boring, boring, boring. You could never insult anyone seriously with this nor will you ever be on your way to SEDUCING anyone. Isn't that the point? No matter how "playfully" you say something like this, at best you're saying, "Look at me! Look at me! I'm a fucking clown . . . "

Maybe I'm too old for you kids. Maybe this is the way 17 year olds roll and look to make out with each other. If you can somehow expalain to me how something like this has anything to do with attracting people, I'd love to hear it. Agan . . . I just made it up on the spot but read the 2 lines the op could have said instead. Why wouldn't guys just go this route instead? The point is to score.

Yes Mystery him self is where I got the $ bit from, I can link a video of the explanation if you want.

you guys are funny lol. You don't realize some times its the crazy stuff that works. Its going VERY extreme, but the ones who take the most risk are most successfull. Just ask your self what is the most amount of sets you have hit just with opens, and negs? in one night. With the intention to not escalate it any further just try to acomplish 50 different opens using trial/error, is that extreme? lol yes!

Are you still drunk? I didn't write what you do works or doesn't work. Your incoherent writing style simply makes you sound like you're drunk.

"Extreme" is merely an adjective and in its own does little to describe game.

Stripping naked and dancing on the bar would be "extremely" crass.

Standing around and gawking at girls would be "extremely" AFC.

Opening by grabbing a girl tightly and staring at her lips before you plant a smooch would be "extremely" forward. (I think this is what you would call "risky")

Opening 50 different sets without escalating any further is an "extreme" waste of time . . . What exactly is your definition of "work"? How did this "work" for you?

yeah.. thats the thing.. i was going pretty good beforehand with most girls that night and admittedly the line that i used on that chic wasnt the best but im only a mopnth in and im trying whatever pops into my head at the moment... sometimes successful othertimes not- so but i do appreciate everyones criticism. i think in future il word it much better.

Hurley man,

Not sure exactly where you are but based on what you wrote, I think you're in sort of that "dabble" stage. This is good. If you're moving from set to set with ease and you exude that level of confidence, you're on top of this game. Now you gotta shift gears and start squeezing your sexual juices. You can't be satisfied with just "Wow, he's really funny." I'm sure this isn't your primary objective.

As soon as you get that smile from what ever it is that you do, kick start that sexual motor and grab their sexual interests. Get close. Get intimate. Talk about fun things you WILL do outside of the "party". Get their numbers. Try out kissing games. Keep pushing yourself further and further. If you were confident enough to tell that guy off, it means you have enough inner game to carry this "sexual frame" without excuses or regrets. From what I can tell from your writing, you definitely have the ability to do this.

For now at least, I'd think that it's a good idea for you to keep a few lines you can use over and over again. Wing it . . . sure . . but until you can make a habit of recognizing each stage and naturally escalating it to the next stage, keep a few things in mind. Maybe like:

She smiles after you open so you,

"Ohhh. . . look at those cute dimples . . ."

"blah blah . . ."

"Hey, but don't get a big head now. Dimples alone won't get you a date with me. . . Although . . . I am developing this urge to give your dimple a big fat kiss! . . "

"Oh no! or Oh my God! blah blah blah."

"Oh Jeez! Look! That girl just fell down!" (Point your finger. She looks away and you plant a kiss on her cheek)

She'll smile, smile, and smile but she'll go, "Oh, you tricked me!"

"No, no . . . you missed it. She really . . . Oh shit! She fell again!"

Now you don't even give her a chance to reply and you go something like, "So do you believe in the importance of the first kiss?"

On and on and on . . .

Millions of different ways to do this but the important thing is to keep pushing them to the next level. Have fun . . .

I like that one bro! cheers heaps