Hey Guys,

Recently one of my and my gfs mutual friends Missy bought her a book of sex stories for xmas.My GF has been with me for 10 years, and I was her first. Her friends know this.

I was a little freaked but didnt think much of it. Then a friend who mixes a lot asked me if I was bothered by the gift. I said no. She replied "even though missy is bisexual" ? I didnt know this, but pretended I did, and acted cool with it.

That night my gf and I were fucking, and she asked if I ever have fantasies I am ashamed of. I said yes, and she said not to worry, she loves lesbian porn but it doesnt mean she wants to be with a woman.

Anyway, next day I noticed that here underwear (very sexy) was new. The next day I found a massive dildo in her draw (9.5 girth by , lubed up and obv used by my gf.Along with it was also a lot of feminine but sluttish style new underwear.

That night my gf wanted to read the sex story book before we had sex. I got angry and asked her to put it down. She accused me of beign jealous of anyone she hangs with. I said no, I'm only jealous of missy.

She said I was silly and asked if I thought something was going on with Missy. I said I wasn't sure but that it was inevitable that they were going to have sex. She turned away from me, and didnt answer that. She simply said asked why I was so upset about the book. I asked who got her the sexy underwear (Im letting her keep the dildo secret) and she said missy.

She told me to stop being stupid, that girls buy each other underwear and things like the book and that I was a prick. She still wasnt looking at me and I said to her - "do you think missy hasnt got off on the idea of the kickers she bought you being covered in my cum and your pussy juice after a good hard fuck??? Do you honestly think she hasnt fucked herself sensless over that - she is bisexual you know"

My gf said I was probably right but she had been niave. I then told her that Missy wanted to fuck her and hard and she looked at my gfs body the way I do.. I vaguely hinted that missy had talked about my GF in a very sexual way to me (my gf didnt question this, even though I made it up). My GF admitted that Missy was slightly attracted to her and she knew it but it was too slight to matter.

She then said she had been very niave and felt she was being groomed by Missy, and that I should be angry as it was no different than a guy wanting to bed her. I said I had resigned myself to the fact that they fancied each other too much to stop it happening (I made this up but she didnt question it) other than to say that she felt manipulated.

She never looked at me during this conversation. I drifted off to sleep, and she woke me to say she was nipping out. She wouldnt say where. I discoved she had left her phone, and had called missy just before she left (missy must not have answered). My GF was back very quickly with takeaway and nothing much was mentioned other than she said I was very selfish to tell her that missy wanted to bed her, as she felt awkward around her.

I checked her other phone today and discovered a lot of messages between them. None that were exactly wrong, but borderline:

"hey Missy, gonna go to bed soon, but having a read of that book in the bath first xx"

"hey GF, good to see you for lunch today, you looked really good, glad to see you are making an effort for me"

"Hey missy, thanks to the book ghands made me come twice last night. Thank you so much"


My GF has also said that Missy is very kinky sexually, but will not tell me how as it is nothing to do with me, and that they do talk about sex a lot, but all that missy knows is that I am good in bed"

Basically, are they lezzing, preparing to lez, or can I tip things over the edge" My gf is so sweet I cannot believe what is going on. I cant understand why she called Missy after our argument, or left the phone there where I could see she had called missy. She didnt go and see her ...

Please guys, I realise this sounds messed up - but I want to know - are they lezzing already or is my gf looking for permission. Why didnt she answer when I said Missy was bi (something I shouldnt know), or that it was inevitable they would fuck?

Obvoiusly, this is just a guess, but I'd say things have gone farther that she is telling you. If they haven't been together sexually, they have at least (Probably) talked about it. It sounds like your GF wants to, but needed the book to show her it was ok. In my experience, if you push too hard, you'll be the one left holding the sausage...While the ladies are holding each other... At this point, I'd say that the best you can hope for is a threesome, and even then, you might lose her to Missy in the end. Certainly don't try to hold her back, as that will just make you look like the bad guy.
Good luck! And keep us informed.

Okay man, I think you have 2 options at this point.

It seems obvious that your gf is at least curious if she hasnt already decided to do this and is now just waiting to make her move.

I have been in this position before and let me tell you, there is little you can do right now to change things. What you can do is direct it a little to get the outcome you want. However, it may take letting it go of her a little.

So your choices are as follows:

You can proceed with asking her about it and making her feel like if she is interested she will be doing something wrong. This will surely result in her sneaking off to be a 'bad girl' with her friend eventually. And this will either drive her away completely or just make her do this behind your back.

Your other option is to start acting curious and commenting about how hot her friend is. Say that you cant blame her for being curious. Start to get into the sexy part of the conversation with her. Eventually she will ask you if you are okay with it. At this point you can say that you would like to watch. Dont tell her that you want to get into the action just yet. Just tell her that you want to watch. If this works and you are in the room when it happens, they will both be so worked up that you will undoubtedly get into the mix too.

Just a warning, bringing someone in the bedroom with you and your gf is fun but can backfire. Just a warning, but if shes already got her mind set on doing this, you might as well have some fun.

What puzzled me was the way that when I said:

"It inevitable you and missy will start having sex"

she didnt deny it. In fact I think she was turned on bit didnt want me to know. Instead she avoided my question and said I shouldnt be ok about it, it was the same as a guy wanting to have sex with her.

The fact she called missy before walking out but left the phone for me to find seems odd.

My gf sometime loves lesbian porn, but if introduce it she gets mad, so I'm not sure what the next step is.

The best thing I see I can do is take control. They will end up having sex anyway. My gf is so sweet (although filthy when horny) i am still in shock.

The dilido is massive and she was sending missy messages, From what I have seen they arent very sexual messages, but I wonder if my GF started upping the game, describing an orgasm if that would help?

Whatever I dont want to be played as a chump.

I totally understand your jealousy. You feel threatened by the possibility that you will lose her.

I want to assure you, that your reaction may have made it inevitable. Anger is not the right way to deal with it. It only makes you look bad to you gf. And, if Missy is a predator, she could use it to push you out further.

It's classic boyfriend killer.

Now, there is one way you can recover. You need to humble yourself. Go to your gf and say, "I was wrong. I felt threatened. I reacted horribly. I should not have attacked you. You did nothing wrong. Please forgive me."

It has a slim chance of working, but you tried anger and it didn't work.

Check your ego out for a while. If she accepts your apology and forgives you, you then need to work to rebuild what your angry outburst destroyed.

She may not want to talk about her relationship with Missy. The way you test it is to say, "You and Missy have a special bond." If she says, "I don't want to talk about it," reply with, "That's fine. If you ever want to, I can talk about it with complete compassion. I have become comfortable with whatever your relationship is." And, when you say this, you have to understand two things: First, she is an adult and can make her own decisions, Second, your reaction may have been something she cannot forgive and may have already pushed her into Missy.

Now, if when you mention her and Missy's bond, she does not say she doesn't want to talk about it, then you have a possibility that you might be able to work it into a threesome...if that is what you want. The way to do that is to show how open you are to your gf's sexual exploration.

Talk to her about how a woman's body is such a turn on for you. Read her reaction. If she agrees, then she is thinking about Missy. If she is embarassed, she thinks you are talking about her(your gf) and that will indicate she is not considering sex with Missy.

If she is thinking about Missy, then you can throw out the possibility of including Missy in your next sexual experience, and if she calls you as wanting to have two women in bed, explain that you want Missy in there for your gf, not yourself. Explain how you love her so much that you want her to be happy and sexually satisfied.

Continue with, "I do not need anyone else. You completely satisfy me. I want you to be as sexually satisfied as I am."

From there, you are on your own.

Recap, your reaction was that of a little kid who has a toy and another kid is trying to take it. You threw a temper tantrum. In your anger, you might have thrown away the toy, and the other kid is going to get it.

It might mean you can't get it back. But, the positive side is that there are many toys in the toy store. Sure, you haven't bonded with them, but they are just as fun.

Hey Sincerlee,

Do you think the joking flirty comments, and the gifts of underwear and sex book were attempts by Missy to groom my GF as my GF said? Surely my GF must have realised what was going on and wasnt so niave?

Why did she call missy before she left but leave her phone so I could see what she did?

Yes, She is being groomed, just as a RSD student will destroy the boyfriend of a girl they want, by introducing alternatives that paint an exciting life, and showing that the boyfriend is an obstacle that stands in the way of the girl experiencing that exciting life.

Chances are, you are already in the rear view mirror, and only the formalities are left.

Texting Missy that she had two orgasms has two sides. One side is, it sets the bar for what Missy has to achieve, and two orgasms are not hard to do in a new sexual experience because the adrenaline will almost bring one, and sexual experience will cause the second. The other side is, you are able to give multiple orgasms. If you need to find a new girlfriend, you have a skill that most guyus lack.

The phone being left behind could have been intentional, or may havebeen a mistake because she was so upset she just forgot it. I would just use it as information, and not worry about the motivations as to WHY she did it. Guessing WHY a woman does ANYTHING is an exercise in futility.

So how do I get over the lies, forgetting the motivation, and get the fucking on my terms.

My gf is so sweet i find this really hard to believe.

You can choose to be righteously angry over the lies, or you can forgive them without being asked for forgiveness.

You can't make love to anger. You can't kiss it. It won't be there for you when you get old.

So, I suggest you embrace forgiveness.

I also tell you that you need to give up control. Fucking needs to be a gift to you, not something you take from her. So long as you are angry, she isn't going to give it to you.

Hey Sincerlee,

You are totally right. I meant how can I ensure that they are fucking each other, or get it started if it hasn't.

I know I cant stop this, so it seems I need to help things along. How can I get my GF fucking Missy if she isnt already (she has def thought about it now).

You can't. It is their choice, not yours. You are on the outside looking in. The best you can do is make it look like where you are is where they need to be.

I thought only insecure chicks and wussy guys attempt to bond their relationship through some holy love making or what not. Seriously . . .

I'm not even sure what it is that you're "forgiving" your girlfriend over . . .

Anyhow, don't go on doing something that feels "wrong" to you. You're a person too. You gotta do what feels right.

No matter what they say, plenty chicks out there seem to like possessive, jealous guys. Find girls who are into your natural style instead of bending over to try to make your self fit in to your girl's World.

I thought only insecure chicks and wussy guys attempt to bond their relationship through some holy love making or what not. Seriously . . .

I'm not even sure what it is that you're "forgiving" your girlfriend over . . .

Anyhow, don't go on doing something that feels "wrong" to you. You're a person too. You gotta do what feels right.

No matter what they say, plenty chicks out there seem to like possessive, jealous guys. Find girls who are into your natural style instead of bending over to try to make your self fit in to your girl's World.

kasabi, did you just call me, or did you call him, a "wuss"?

How do you get over the objection that she feels she would be cheating?