It's pretty simple really, but I will say that it took awile and alot of failed attempts at humor.

I went over it a little in the earlier post. I would listen to a comedian that I found funny over the course of a few days. After listening to him I would go out and talk to pretty much anyone that would listen and as part of the conversation I would try to adopt the style of the comedian I had listened to as my own. Listen to their rhythym and unique way of speaking. Notice how almost every comedian has a unique perspective and way of looking at the world. I will say that I failed alot. There were a shitload of failed jokes. The great part though is failure makes great humor. You have to remain optimistic and have fun with it. You can learn to be funny like anything else.

There's more that goes into it than this, but its sure enough to get you started.

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Actually what I'm saying is that some people are just naturally funny to be around. Do you think that you can do stand up comedy or be the funniest man that everyone loves? I don't think so. If you just don't have that natural presence of being a funny person then you can't fake or build a new "yourself" to be funny all of a sudden. You are just harnessing another dimension of your character which involves being more into humor. Being funny and being able to tell a canned joke are two different things. Funny people always find a way to make a situation even more pleasurable.

Oh and you can call me a pessimist if that makes you feel tougher. But learning to be funny is something that someone cannot just do. You just have to face the fact that people's personalities are set and that's just how they are. They then harness another characteristic/strong personal quality and they use it even more to attract or make friends. It's not being a pessimist, it's called facing reality.

Edit: An example is people who are naturally Alpha in a group or people who have natural game in picking up women. They just have that certain characteristic already hardwired and they harnessed it and used it to its full potential. Everyone has a sense of humor but it's different and can not be completely rebuilt from watching comedians and taking their material and "trying" to fake being funny.

I have never witnessed a baby coming out and start picking up chicks. Your example of a guy who is naturally alpha, he just learned a productive way to be around women at a younger age is all.

I do agree that some part of who we are is genetics, but I have found no evidence that a sense of humor has anything to do with genetics.

I didn't want to insult you by calling you a pessimist. Maybe I am too optimistic, but sure as hell makes me feel better knowing that I can change than thinking I'm stuck with my lot in life.
I actually like the way you put this it's kind of eloquent. I respect that. I agree that telling a canned joke is different, and thank god. When I tell a canned joke it almost always ends up horrible, but when I express my own unique style of humor it goes great. I didn't pick this up overnight, I learned it. Was it in me all along? maybe, but without believing it was possible I wouldn't have had much motivation to unlock that potential.

I agree they do. I never said it was an easy thing to change one's perspective, but it is possible. Wasn't there a time when you believed that no woman would like you? And look at you now I'm sure you have women just clammering for you.

I like how you challenge what I am saying, you would really be crazy good at something with all that passion. I wish you success my friend whether its by nature or nurture.

peace,
Ty

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I highly respect this response and it made me think. People who are naturally serious can come off as humorless and somber. But they could potentially develop some sort of laughable characteristic from themselves. With enough dedication, they can adapt to certain situations and learn to be more sociable thus being more amusing and silly. I just meant that someone who is always serious and whatnot just can't go to the other end of the spectrum to be hilarious. I wish it could happen but i guess it won't. No harm in trying your hardest

If you weren't being sarcastic, to answer your question, yes there was a time when i thought no women liked me. It was very recently actually. I was just a clown and was funny to them as a friend, nothing more. Now it's changed little, I'm just learning the ways and trials of picking up. Humor is a large part of it and it's just something everyone knows something about but few master

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I find that most people are funny when they are comfortable and amongst their friends. I just pretend the people I've just met are my friends. It takes some getting used to, but after a while you get the hang of it.

I also read the book "Comedy Writing Secrets." It's really good at telling you the basics of what makes people laugh, but it's almost as completely counter-intuitive as picking up girls. Go figure.

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Well, Ill tell you a little about my story.
Im not very social, but ive been coming out of my shell the last few years. Until then i could count on one hand, the number of times i actually made people laugh. Over the these last years, i have been learning to be more funny, now and then (when im relaxed, comfortable, in a good mood, which isnt that often) i can be funny and playful, lighthearted.
But I want more of it, i have 'changed' or 'come out of my shell'(whatever it is), but i want to more, i want to grow in it faster.
Ive been reading pua stuff, and just from reading C&F and other lines, i seemed to be able to take on that perspective or personna. No i can actually make girls laugh and have fun with them. I still have a long way to go but im beginning to think that way.
I honestly think this is how people are funny. They basically see things in a different way. All jokes, if you break them down, follow only a few themes. And i believe you can actually learn that prespective, or style humorous people have.
But I still need alot of work, thats why I was asking this question. I have changed! and i would like to know if there are anyways that other people have used too help the process.
Like for example: improv....I just thought of it. Im sure if you practice it and get around it enough you'll catch on???
Any one know any good books on humor, rather then comedy writing secrets???

This is a good point. I do think that confidence can have alot to do with how funny people think you are. I have known plenty of times when I tell stuff that is really shitty jokes, but people laugh their asses off I guess because they respect me. It's kind of like the boss at a meeting. When he tells a joke everyone laughs regardless of whether its funny or not, but just because he is in a position of power.

I think humor is all about tension. It's much like flirting with a girl. You build someone up and then finally you release it when you get to the punchline. In the case of the boss the tension is already there because everyone is nervous around the boss so it is very easy for him to say even a crappy joke and release it.

One of the places that I learned alot about humor was this improv group I started going to for awile. They will teach you excercises designed to increase your wit and quick thinking, and other ones designed to help your storytelling abilities. Not only that its extremely fun. I teach girls the techniques I learned there all the time.

I would recommend http://www.humanpingpongball.com/
they have hundreds of these games. I played them with everyone I think they helped my sense of humor immensly

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Another thing i remembered is, being funny does not just mean telling jokes to people and having them laugh. You could be gaming a girl and just by teasing her or playing with her, you are making her enjoy herself by laughing with you. In a group you have to flow with what's being said and just say a funny story.

And yeah that's a good point, being with people you know or having more confidence will make it so much easier to make people laugh whatever your method may be. r

ok here's what you do. Want do you do when you have no knowlegde about something? you study it right?

that's exactly the same with being funny. Don't get me wrong, I don't want you to learn jokes by heart, no. that could have the opposite effect. What you do is to surrond yourself with funny things.

sounds stupid, does it? well, that how I developed a C&F skill beyond my imagination with girls. I'm serious, as you see funny things, hear someone funny speak, and really pay attention to it, you will unconciosly learn the key to be a witty and funny person, 24/7.

here's some thing you can get used to to do this:

-Listen someone funny and interesting talk (some friends, etc). you will notice voice tones and movements you can copy, and will improve this hability.

-Watch Friends (yeah, again sounds ridiculous uh?). every sinlge chapter, and particulary study the character of Chandler (of course there is no need to become a clow as he is but his sense of humor is incredible).

-Look for funny quotes on the net as something you can came up with in a conversation as something taht happend to you, or you to use them anytime.

Just for the record, This is'nt an overnight process.. maybe a couple of weeks or months, like everything about PU, to internalize. But again, it works like a charm.

Hope this helps you.. keep us informed!
GL

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So ive really been looking into this lately. I found a great resource, improv! Not the actually classes, maybe one day but the books are a good starting point. Ive been reading some and they have really been giving me a sense or understanding of humor. Now when i here a joke, instead of just laughing i actually understand why its funny.
Its usually something absurd, out of the ordinary, unexpected, opposite. Now, ive been just practicing this, thinking about things in an absurd manner, even if its not funny. Once, in a while i find something funny. I think it is possible to learn how to do this, i believe its just a way of thinking. I may never be a comedian but i dont need too, all i want is to crack some jokes now and then.
Ive only been doing it for a short while, but im starting to be able to see humor in things so i think this has really helped, the new dosage of prozac could be helping also....
But i just wish there were better resources. Even just for conversation and relating to people. The Pua is the only stuff that i worth anything, other normal books on convo and that kind of stuff are so general and bland they dont help. pua can be applied to so many aspects of life its great, even the techniques can be used on other stuff than just women, at work, this and that to get people to like you and all that.

check out juggler its pua, but its a more a genuine natural type style and has more to do with conversation, plus before he was a guru he was a comedian. Very entertaining to read and I learned a shitload from it.

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Be around people that are funny. If you have friends that are hilarious, hangout with them and learn why they can make people crack a smile.

Keep in mind the concept of being funny. You tell one thing that is funny, you get a, "that's funny!". However, once you do it many times it turns into, "he's funny!" No matter how many lines people throw at you, you have to develop your own sense of humor.

There are many types of humor including: Being random, being clumsy, being witty, being stupid, etc.

I'm in exactly the same predicament. I'm a social dancer, like blues, lindy, Latin etc. and that provides me an avenue for humor. Just little cheesy kicks and slick ass moves make them chuckle. I feel like there's a general model for wit and humor (not necessarily the characteristic of being "funny") but I haven't seen enough of it to describe it. I've only seen it dancing and in small groups doing specific activities like bowling, or Frisbee-in-the-park or things like that. C+F is a difficult thing as well but I think in our cases it may just be a matter of finding a model suitable to our tastes, styles, and voices.
Might I propose some suggestions? (not based on a lot of experience but perhaps a little logic) Find comedy on youtube that kicks a crowd into high laughter but then perhaps does not do the same for you. Then find comedy on youtube or any other site like that that really speaks to you but doesn't necessarily appeal to everyone. Brainstorm and try to bring the two humor worldviews into spitting distance and conjoin them a bit with some phrases you make up reflecting both humor worldviews. I've done this only informally and not in a notebook or anything but it's something that I plan to do if not during this next term of school (undergrad... damn... haha...) during the summer when I've a bit more time. Exercises like that may help, although they take a lot of time. It's kind of a WAY BRUTE FORCE method but I've gotten some favorable albeit shallow results from it.
Good luck, man! We're in this quest together!
-AspireToBeHigher

x2.... I have only read about half but I plan on re-reading the whole thing over my Christmas break. Very detailed and breaks down every single aspect of "what is funny"

Most people, I find, are funny by being witty and sarcastic. An example is blatantly lying about something while keeping a serious (or mostly serious) attitude and facial expression. I just saw Anchorman last night (and today , ha) and I think Will Ferrel is one of the most, if not the most, funny men of today. He's VERY sarcastic and lots of "fake" cockiness (such as his "guns" and working out when he's obviously chubby and out of shape)

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