hey guys.. id really appreciate sum help..i'm chris 19.. i just gettin into pick up but ive always been comfortable and good with girls, except one girl...
ok my ex had me totally mad bout her and i acted totally pathetic being crazy romantic and needy and stuff...i still get on well with her and i've started to back off a bit-thats the rite thing to do isnt it??
i just want to know how should i play it from now any suggestions..
she is a quiet good girl type too any suggestions to eh..lets say bring her out of her shell..
thanks a replies wud be hugely appreciated

i acted totally pathetic being crazy romantic and needy and stuff

Do the exact opposite. You must be cool, confident, challenging, mysterious, relaxed and in control of your emotions.

You can't get a girl to come out of her shell or open up by acting clingy, it doesn't work that way.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

any suggestions or should i just try relax and be laid-back...
since i have no problem chattin up other girls is it good idea to do so subtly when she' around??

You definitely want to relax and lay back, but also work on making your interaction with her 'interesting'. Try the C&F and push/pull approach, these can be a powerful combination if done correctly.

It's a GREAT idea to chat up other girls when she's around. Talking to other girls will not only raise your social status, it will get her 'attention' because she no longer has yours...and that's when the real fun can begin.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

I'd love to hear your definition of crazy romantic needy and stuff . . . What did you actually do?

thanks sinful..

and romantic prob not rite word just plain needy pathethic shit..-lik textin her again wen she dint text beck and even givin out bout her not textin back..loads o shit like that..yuk

needy pathethic shit..-lik textin her again wen she dint text beck and even givin out bout her not textin back..loads o shit like that..yuk

yes, all are attraction killers. At least you know what went wrong and can make the proper adjustments...good luck Chris.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

What you did wasn't romantic but it wasn't needy either. It was really just nothing. Not sure why you guys think useless chatter has anything to with the game either positive or negative.

Here's what romantic/needy looks like:

"I really really like you so much." "Well, I know you have lots of friends and you're prob busy on Friday but I thought maybe you'd like hang out with me." "No? Why not? Come on . . . I really like you so much!" "Well, OK, but maybe you can go out on Saturday?" "Would you like to be my girlfriend?"

This is where you buy flowers, send her a few letters, and tell your friends to tell her that you really, really like her. Then you start off again.

"Well maybe you're not really into dating now but I'm really nice and I bet you'll learn to like me. How about if we go to movies on Sunday instead of Saturday? Will this work for you?" etc . . . etc . . . etc . .

I'm pretty sure you didn't do the above, right? So relax You didn't do anything bad but you didn't do anything good either.

This isn't some bar/night club where you're trying to trigger instant attraction and competition from other girls. I REALLY don't think you need to do this but if you decide to go this route, avoid being the "clown" and trying to make all the girls laugh. This is difficult to do if you're in school and you're not F'ing a few of them already. They need to drool over you and not "ha, ha . . isn't he so funny" at you.

Really . . . you just need to man up and ask the girl out. I don't know if you really understand any of that C/F, push/pull stuff but basically . . . these are all routines that escalate sexual attraction and should get you to some sort of CLOSE within that conversation. I just don't understand it when some posters write, "I've been C/F with her for 3 months or I've been push/pulling her for 2 months . . . what the hell?

You do one routine and you go, "Any plans for Friday?" . . . Then if you screw this one up, figure out what you did wrong, change up where you think you went wrong. Then routine and close the next one. You probably go to school with hundreds, if not thousands of girls. Gaming one girl in "school" is like going to a steak house and ordering a glass of water for dinner.