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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:14 pm 
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The majority of us have done this, the others who are learning on this forum, will do this in the near future.

She's walking down the street, high heels, long hazelnut hair draped round her shoulders, you spot her as she strides down the pavement, head held high in self-assured confidence. A guy, casually yet smartly dressed saunters out of the bakers, and turns to approach our lady.

"Hi"

Within seconds a conversation has been struck up between the both of them. She is giggling, uncontrollably, even at his poor pun about the weather.

The guy begins telling a story about his brother and himself when he was in Barcelona for a weekend break. She listens intently scratching her neck, her green eyes fixated on his every move, he begins touching her clothing, commenting on the flower pinned to her blouse.

She blushes “Thanks” She spins out into a conversation on where she bought it, desperate to add something to the conversation. Our man lets her talk, and listens.

She asks his name.. ..Running her hand through her hair. It's not long until she's writing down her number for him and they both split up and head on their separate ways.

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Tell me, who was talking to this girl? A guy from the community, right?

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What if I said this guy was, well normal? If you are not surprised.... GOOD!

Lets get an interview with our hazelnut haired friend.

Me: So why did you give that guy your number?

Her: Well he just seemed really friendly, he was charming, funny and I just had a nice conversation with him, he made me feel good.

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Lesson learned: 1.

A Pick up Artist, is not somebody who possesses an individual skill or quality relevant solely to pick up.

Another note is that no girl will honestly say she dated a guy because “he was awesome at running Mystery Method game, his Kino and false disqualification were just perfect”

Pick up as an art form in itself, is made of two parts.

1. Qualities of the Artist.
2. Conversational logistics, e.g. how to start a conversation and understanding when to close etc.


1. The qualities are what attract people; they are our pre-selection, our humour, our positive traits, whatever they may be. This is what fundamentally holds a good relationship together. It’s simple enough to understand that if you have these qualities, you wont need to fake them, THIS, is where a TRUELY attractive personality, comes from. These are cultivated Internally, they are developed by ourselves; we are in charge of these characteristics.


2. The “Conversational Logistics” are our ability to start a conversation and maintain one in which we can portray our attractive personality. This can be kept in shape through socialisation, but cold approaches are not necessarily needed in developing these skills. Simple fact is many naturals are quite competent in the art of the cold approach, yet they never practise it.


“Simple fact is many naturals are quite competent in the art of the cold approach, yet they never practise it.”

That is IMPORTANT.

Approaching solely to practise, is BAD, women will smell the fact that you don’t really care, you will also lose A LOT of enjoyment from it, also their are certain ethical implications in using someone for practise.

Lesson Learned: 2.

It is an unhealthy habit to approach SOLELY with the intent to practise, although dealing with AA is another matter, you must still be approaching on the grounds that you have a “desire” to interact with the group you are approaching.

Enjoy these thoughts, may they help you in your development as a Pick up artist, and more importantly, as a human being in this world.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:21 pm 
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Nice post Fin,

Want to just add to the last 2 points. Its correct you shouldn't just go out to "pickup" women. Put bluntly from a guy perspective its fucked..and women can smell it.

Go do things you want to, if I go mediate @ the park and see someone I want to talk to cool. But my intention is I got things to do in my life & anything else is bonus. Know what your going do beforehand- have a reason to go out other than impressing women or going for practice! Its called getting your life together. :)


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love this post I have been trying to drum this into my friends for ages, they approach to approach not to just hangout and chat. Plus I always think there is something a little odd about practicing picking up women on women you aren't attracted to

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Another note is that no girl will honestly say she dated a guy because “he was awesome at running Mystery Method game, his Kino and false disqualification were just perfect”
LOL


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This is why I stick with direct game. It forces me to be honest.

Plus, it makes me stand out. Most guys who want to talk to girls go in defensively indirect, hoping to transition to a flirty vibe later on, or they go in cheeseball direct, in such a way that the girl realizes that if she responds positively to the guy, everyone around her will think she's a slut.

Coming in right in the middle - direct yet tasteful, with no compunctions whatsoever about what I'm saying - is both rare and powerful.

That's why I do it.


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Alot of you seem to have grasped this... you have no idea how glad I am at knowing that!!!!

Way I see it Pick Up is natural, it's not wierd, cultish or secretive. Pick Up didn't invent attraction, Pick up is a very natural process, pick up is A PRODUCT of attraction.

Unless you are using really sleazy "patterns" to hypnotise her into loving you, or stimulate the idea that she likes you. (In all honesty, if its just you fucking with her mind that is getting her horny, I'd consider that very close to date-rape)

The attraction switches that we learn, and the mind that we study, have been built through evoloution.

Confidence is naturally attractive, so is the concept of the "leader of men".

These qualities HAD to of naturally exhisted and been attractive at some point, in order for them to be considered acttractive -to even work as Pick Up concepts.

You see where I am approaching from?

It's not that we are "copying" others either. We're just getting an understanding of dating and the relationships between human beings.

I'm not sure if I have explained this right, so tell me if it seems hard to understand.


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