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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:11 pm 
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I like to hang out in the PUA chat. Its a funny place to disscus game and have fun.

Everyonce in a while there's someone that needs help, who just got rejected or something, and that person can find help and comprehension.

If someone needs help and I'm around you guys can be 100% sure that I'm gonna be there for you.

But I'm not qualified to deal with some things, I can help you improve some stuff, give you some good advice about women. But when someone has issues that are not directly relationed with women and pick up, I can give any help.

When someone needs proffesional help, well, proffesional help is the only thing that is smart to give in that scenario.

This community helps people that often have issues and problems. I'm not blaming them, shit happens, no one is perfect, I even got some issues of my own.

Sometimes, with the best of the intentions we end up helping out people in this forum, that we cant really help.

If someone is a proffesional Therapist, cool, give us your ideas on this. But If you are just a regular guy you cant give good advice, and maybe you will just make it worse.

I witnessed people on this forum making fun of this "Cry for help" guys, and thats just fucked up. Dont do that, thats just straight up evil.

Sometimes, I even think that maybe is not about their issues, they are just wanting to get some attention, but I'm not a proffesional.

If you see a person breaking down emotionally on the chat I would recommend just to say "Dude, have you thought about going to theraphy?". Anything else wont help.

And if someone doesnt wants to go to theraphy, it must be that it is not about getting help, so ignore it.

If someone is a pro on this stuff, please give us your opinion on how we should deal with this, cause at least I dont know how to.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:05 pm 
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Yup that's good just remember you can't help those who aren't willing to first help themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:14 am 
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The problem is a lot of people refuse to undergo therapy, I know a few myself and this is why we can help to an extent, motivating them, pushing them or in any other way bringing them closer to going to a professional who can help them where we can't. I know it's simply human nature to help people who come to us with a problem but given the nature of these forums I think we're a little more willing than most to help out someone in need, particularly with emotional problems.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:18 am 
A good way to help someone is to SHOW them the results. Have sex with a beautiful woman in front of them. That's proof enuff.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:18 am 
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Some people can't be helped.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:33 am 
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Those seeking help will to get it.

A few philosophical comments from a beginner:

It's too bad so much hurt tends to go into the Game for both the males and the females. Its about love, compassion, and healing not about jealousy, hate, and hurt. I know this sounds chick like but people need to understand one another and communicate better.

Society could reform how it raises both men and women to have REAL healthy relationships. But lucky for us players that ain't gonna happen any time soon. So we have our nice 10:1 ratio, ultimately whether you're polygamous or monogamous (when you are monogamous you will still be 10x more likely to attract a mate(of quality)). For those of you who want this and don't have it if you are dedicated to yourself then you will find the way but do get help, we need one another, humans are social animals.

It's messed up that society neglects to teach men how to act like men (how much more confusing is it now that women are men), and then they get rejected. Its not Jimmy's fault that he did not know how to relate to people without compromising himself, anymore than it is the woman's fault for rejecting him. Its NEVER personal, there is conflict and misunderstanding but there is always a healthy life and thereby a healthy sexual life. Then he gets angry or sad. He gets inhibited through hurt that scars him deeply. He gets isolated, he gets sicker, and sicker in the soul, until he's so alone his heart knots up for longing. He vows revenge and becomes a certain type of jerk. I guess an emotion abuser?

Can someone PM me if we have a specific name for this type of jerk? What's his role?

Men need to respect women and feed them what they want, not gifts and dinners, attraction and sex. Cruelty is wrong plain and simple no matter how hard one has been hurt. Souls are meant to burn with the white flame of love, not the fiery flame of hate hate.

Fortunately for us players society is not about to change to make everybody's life healthy. But those who work hard, and most importantly keep positive deserve the reward that they WILL. It WILL come because those who are dedicated to themselves WILL do what's best for themselves.

Unfortunately for most men work sucks, life sucks, the wife's a bitch, and the sick MFer is about to give the crying infant Shaken-Baby Syndrome (pardon the dark subject).

You can do it!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:33 pm 
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I think it's important to remember that Mystery himself needed professional help for his depression. Mental illness is nothing to laugh at or to be ashamed of having there are lots of ways to get help: www.nami.org is a national organization helping those with mental illnesses, most schools (colleges and high schools) provide councelors free of charge, and most communities have free help for those suffering mental illnesses. Another important thing to keep in mind is that people who say they want to kill themselves are "crying out for help" but if they do not get that help they may actually kill themselves. Just telling someone to get over it is not enough. If anyone is feeling hese overwhelming emotions or feelings seek professional help.

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