I've been thinking about something lately. A lot of stories seem to be made up, yeah? Well, what if a girl says you're lying, or your wing somehow shows you're lying acceidently, or that same conclusion is reached some other way? I know if you do it right they won't suspect it, and they'll probably forget it soon, but surely being found out would be a DLV?

The only thing I can think of is just saying (if you can't deny it believably) "yeah, it was a good story though wasn't it!" and move on.

You'll have to excuse me, I'm still a complete newb.

as long as you appear congruent no one should think your lying. Girls look at this to see if your being truthful rather than using reason and facts

I don't want to sound harsh, but it will ween you off canned shit faster
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, you may get called out on something but the next time you might have an actual story of your own to tell.

How about, don't lie in the first place. Everyone has stories to tell... besides if a girl doesn't believe you about something (whether it actually did happen or not) then just agree with her and tell her she's right. You get defensive and you LOSE. I repeat this all the time for so many different things, if guys could just get into their heads that a negative comment of any kind requires the same response we'd all be moving a hell of a lot faster.

Agree with comment > exagerrate > move on before she says anything else so it's passive ie. not reaction-seeking ie. you don't take shit seriously and don't care if they believe you or not. Simple. When you look like you have something to prove and you care about what they think, they will use this to manipulate you.

don't lie..

Thanks guys. I don't try to make stuff based on true events, although sometimes it's hard. I'll just keep thinking. Or just get out and do more, make some stories.
Haha good point.
Gotcha.

"So is your makeup"

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Its not lying...its flirting.

Start off by not lying.

If you think you need some canned stories, just tell a quirky one about something you saw or something that happened to you. It doesn't need DHV spikes, nor does it even need to be funny.

Even if the story is just about something you witnessed and not something you did, you're still showcasing your personality by talking about how you see the world around you and how you interpret it.

Here's one I used to use a lot back in the day. It's from bash.org.

<UKDJ|Planet> I swear to god
<UKDJ|Planet> I've just heard a duck tell a joke
<UKDJ|Planet> there was as group of ducks on a pond near where i live
<UKDJ|Planet> one of the ducks was quacking away looking straight at a group of like 10 ducks
<UKDJ|Planet> then he stopped and all the other ducks went mental
<UKDJ|Planet> it looked just like duck stand-up comedy

There's actually a lot of good material there. Just pick something funny and not too nerdy.

Just have fun with it . . .

You didn't even get caught with it and you're already worried. If you begin worrying about all the things that haven't happened yet . . . shit, you're going to have to hide in your bed until the day you die.

Also . . . all you need are 2 routines of your own and you can run through the entire club with it. There is no way you can tell me that you're not creative enough to come up with 2 routines. Come on . . . this is just a matter of laziness . . .

Even when you use your own "stuff", you will once in a while be tested . . .

In a club a while back, this drunk girl was sort of teeter tattering through a crowd looking for her boyfriend or whatever so I look over at a 3 set of girls and go, "Holy shit, did that girl grab your shoulder like a she-warrior?? I think she nearly broke my arm . . . I came over here to make sure that you know . . . that you're safe and sound."

"She's like 100 lbs! You didn't come here to make sure we're OK . . ."

"And you are correct. I came here because I saw you cute ladies and I wanted to flirt."

Well. . . everything is honky dory but the conversation got dull and I notice another set of cute girls RIGHT next to the ones I just opened . . . So I . . . took the first girl and physically pushed her into the cute "new" girl right next to her and I go, "Woh, woh . . . are you totally drunk?"

Then looking at the new girl, I go, "I'm sorry, please accept my apologies on the behalf of my drunk, rude friend."

Now the first girl's eyes go bug-eyed and she goes, "YOU!!! You do this to all the girls???" (Believe me, this was my first time going with the push and shove and apologize opener . . . ha ha ha . . .)

So I go to her, "No, I only do this to cute girls."

And I turn to the new one and go, "I hope you're OK. No broken bones? Joint dislocations? Let's go to this bar here . . ." And I just grabbed her arm and walked off away from the first one.

Just kind of stay in this, "I'll do what ever the hell I want" frame. It's a club. It's a bar. You're supposed to be fun and do what ever the hell you want.

Fake it till you make it.... Kasabi has a good point that all relates around being confident and just having fun! yay fun!

Thanks guys. Kabasi, great story! So it's basically don't lie (obviously), or just roll with it? I suppose the whole "it's no big deal" once again crops up.
Gotta love bash.org. That duck story is great!

"Fun, dumb, random lies" however, are perfectly acceptable when you're just having a great time.

Stuff like:

"Yes, I am a Cambodian moto-dop."
"I am Italian . . . I am German . . . I am Japanese . . ."
"I am 50 years old . . ." (Although this one, I stopped saying after a 18 year old girl replied to me with a completely straight face, "You're older than my father. . . I guess that's OK . . .) Huh!?!?!?
"My name is Dragon. . . . Tiger . . . Cobra"
"We have just returned from our training at the Shaolin Temple."

I'd say it but it has been beaten in enough....




...oh what the heck....don't lie!!!

But what about the obvious funny dumb lies like "We've just returned from training at the Shaolin Temple?"

I get all sorts off responses from dumb lie openers like these but anybody who just tells me, "That's just so stupid. . . " or "Right . . . whatever . . ." gets to just stand there by herself looking like an idiot while the girl who laughs out loud next to her gets all of my attention.

Guys are generally dorky so i think we're somewhat predisposed to converse about the stock market, street directions, redsox vs. yankees, the new coffee machine in his office, etc . . .

Maybe it's just a stereotype but I've always thought of women as more creative and more open to "fantasy". To me, there is nothing is more fun than a girl who just plays off of stupid chatter and goes:

"Are you kidding? Shaolin is a crooked marketing machine. I'm all about Muai Thai!" (And actually puts her fists up in the real kick boxing defense position!) . . . oh and the playful kick showing off her leg . . .YUMMY . .

Maybe it's just me . . . I popped one right there . . .

The above is in a totally different class of lies from, "Hey, I have a friend who is going to a TV show and his girlfriend has C lips and you two look like best friends so maybe you should imagine a cube and I'll climb that ladder so you can give me your opinion on whether my friend should burn those pictures of his ex . . ."