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In my opinion, there are many cases an opener can be used. after school for example, the cheerleaders ( which seems to be the epidomy of highschooler success with girls ) could be practicing, and a good opener could easily break the ice with these girls, especially if there is a particular girl your going for, excluding her form the conversation could be an interesting set.
At lunch, an opener can easily get you access to the entire tables trust and acceptance, you can't exactly go up to a random table and say "hi" with out weird looks. you'd have to become the center of conversation. this would also help you display your value to the table and make them want to get to know you.
Any good PUA knows that you must be different from the average jo
e-shmo. If you always start a conversation with questions like " So how was your day?" or " Man i am tired as fuck" then you'll be another chum looking to interact with her.
When i said knowing the right people, i didn't mean be BFF's with the most popular guy/girl in school, i meant you should be able to talk to anyone with out fear of being rejected, or humiliated, or fear at all. it'll demonstrate your willingness and confidence to be active in any social environment. If the target, or set knows your an easily going guy, your success rate would be even greater.
And not to bash what stygian said, but your seduction status in school is just as important as it is outside of school. If you aren't well know in school, or aren't energetic, then it is highly unlikely you will get invited to these outside event, like parties or hangouts.
Although comfort can be built in class, it is not an ideal environment to build comfort due to the constant interruptions, AMOG's, and the harsh eye towards mostly all kino tactics.
When i said " there are alot of girls in highschool who aren't looking for a quick lay( as a matter of fact close to zero) most are looking for a good relationship and asteady guy" i wasn't referring to the place, but to the age group.
My goal as an aspiring PUA is to be able to pick up a any girl i want, and make her love me. if i was trying to pick up a girl, i wouldn't be going for them as a friend, but as a possible suitor.
BTW, stygian, i hope you don't feel i am trying to bash you or anything, i actually enjoyed your comment, these are just my opinions and am glad to see others trying to rip them apart, it gives me a chance to defend them and become more adamant in them.
I'm not saying you shouldn't use openers, I simply can't imagine myself using one due to my thorough dislike for them. By all means stack forward with openers in midgame or use one to get introduced, the choice is yours. The lunch table situation is kind of silly, to be fair you won't usually go up and say hi but I can't imagine the Jealous GF or Dirty Dancing openers working, especially on a seated set. I would keep to my own clique/social circle while eating lunch or previously introduce myself to someone from said table so that it will be just as easy to say hi to him/her and sit down beside them. Btw, who in the hell would open with "I'm tired as fuck?" That's like going into a bar and opening with "I'm drunk."
Talking to everyone and being sociable is one of the key points of game regardless of what kind or what venue, I feel that part goes without saying and to be honest any PUA regardless of calibre should embody that behaviour as it is simply good practice and gets you talking to strangers, not only that it helps you get to know new people so you can go in to school/work knowing most of the people there already as opposed to having to meet them all anew.
With the seduction part, again the previous paragraph applies, all of that is a given and should go without saying. However it does not stop you from having open-invitation parties/going to open-invitation parties or pre-formals (don't know what you call them in America but it's when a bunch of students head out to a bar to raise money for something or other). Simply by being a fun and sociable guy will get you invited to parties regardless of social status (ever seen Superbad?) and every PUA should be a fun and sociable guy no matter where his venue. I wouldn't rely on class for comfort per se, but I would not underestimate its time bridging capabilities. It's like a bounce but different.
Perhaps things are different where you're from but where I live most people are sexually active around 15 years old, even younger in a lot of cases so the whole quick lay point can be void when translated from my perspective to yours. Like I said, a PUA's goals are his own so getting a quick lay may not be the goal for you, but for others like myself it is so this part I feel is not worth debating.
Good to see you feel strong and are adamant of your opinions, I am simply laying down what I have found in my experience (which can be different in different countries), however if you want any help with the book I'd be happy to help as best I can (
methusar@hotmail.com).
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