I honestly think that Mystery has in many ways caused more harm than good. If he hadn't come up with the stuff he did, then other people probably would have and they might not have even fooled themselves into thinking that they had positive intentions like he did. If people were just honest about the fact that the stuff he teaches is completely manipulative and dehumanizing, then less people would support it and the community would probably be a less creepy place.
I know you're shaking your fist at me and telling your screen that I don't know what I'm talking about, but perhaps you haven't really given this any thought. Perhaps you haven't really been learning how to connect with women and love them and love yourself. If you take a good look around, you'll notice that all the guys that people really respect because of their values always end up leaving the community because they get disillusioned and start hating the fact that it's so manipulative and creepy and so few people actually love women.
JSmooth almost left and he's incredibly sought after and respected as a teacher because of his positive perspectives and values. I almost left because of the same things. Tyler Durdan is basically out. Sean Messenger and Johnny Soporno have told me that they don't really consider themselves part of the community because they don't agree with the people that want to learn how to manipulate women into sleeping with them using lines and not actually loving them and making real connections with them. Adam Lyons doesn't consider himself a pickup artist. The list goes on and on and on and on.
As far as the M3 model goes. It's bullshit. Plain and simple.
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The M3 model is bullshit. Even people that use it can't do it that way. I'm sorry if you think you do, but you're kidding yourself.
You can't attract someone without first establishing a certain level of comfort, nor can you successfully display attraction for them without that comfort and most people wouldn't want to because they don't feel safe being so open. Eye contact is a form of seduction and it often comes before anything else even though M3 says it comes last.
The whole thing is just silly because no real interaction, nor any manipulative pickup that any PUA does can be that clearly structured. You can try all you like, but that's just not how human interaction works. You're constantly throwing in little bits of seduction and attraction mixed in with establishing comfort. The whole thing advances a a fairly even pace on all three fronts.
If you think I'm full of shit, then you obviously take everything that Mystery says for granted and don't bother to open your eyes and think for yourself about the interactions you are having with people. If that's the case, then you're probably not learning anything, you're just becoming more robotic and practiced, making you even less human. Next time you talk to someone think about everything you are doing and you'll notice that if they aren't comfortable you can't even begin to attract them, thus making the whole thing bullshit.
If you're still sitting there pissed off and upset that I've shaken your world, then maybe that's a sign that you need to re-evaluate things. You wouldn't be so angry if you didn't see some truth in it. If you thought I was completely wrong, then you would just laugh and call me silly. If you're angry though, that's a sign that you need to do some serious introspective evaluating.
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