nice post solomon! i agree strongly with being the guy who has fun while expressing natural game because enthusiasm is contagious!!!

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Great post Solomon II. I consider myself a natural and I agree with everything you said. Having female friends is great. You can learn so much from them, and you will also be expanding your social circle.
Like Solomon said do guy stuff with her. Last month I invited an HB to paint-ball, because she won an award at school and she LOVED IT. She said no one has done anything like that with her and that her boyfriend bought her a teddy bear (she was happy with that, but was a little dissapointed because anyone could do that).

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this is my favourite pick up related thing ever. much respect bro.

btw ... why the fuck is this not stickied?

Awesome post Solomon!

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nice post!

Are you kidding me? You should be grateful that there are so many "robots" out there. You'll have no problem stealing the girls away from them.

Natural game isn't something that needs to be kept a secret. It's so difficult enough a thing to obtain in the first place, that many will jump to the quick-fix of routines and tricks.

Q.

About the friends thing, my 2 best friends (brothers) moved out of state, so i really don't hang out much, but i am pretty successful with women. I think the friends thing is somewhat irrelevant. I hang with my cousins but its not all the time, and i don't consider them friends. If you love your life, you will attract women into it. even if your a homeless lonely bum.

You're absolutely right. Social proof and preselection are definately good, but you do not need them. Hell, a willingness to walk away demonstrates preselection and you don't need anyone but yourself for that! I've met plenty of girls while out alone, and even taken girls home after going out to the bar by myself because nobody else could be bothered. I had to talk about the importance of having a social circle though, because there are so many benefits to knowing lots of people.

Ughhh your posts are giving me PUAgasms!!
I've realized all the things you talked about have also been in my mind, but I never really took the time to get things down in stone and organize my thoughts.

You should seriously get into the business world of PU so you can spread your knowledge.
You teach it so well man.

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Okay, so Solomon explained that his initial intention wasn't to go into expanding one's social circle, but I'd like to touch on that a little bit if possible. Meeting women is part of the reason that I'm studying pickup, but more broadly, meeting all sorts of people and generally becoming a more sociable person is my real goal.

Becoming naturally sociable is what I really want. I AM looking at routines and methods right now because I'm not very socially effective naturally OR artificially right now. In line with being natural, though, I'm carefully screening routines for what's going to be genuinely fun for me to play. (The cube? Not so much. Style's 5 lies game? Sounds great.)

Since Solomon stipulates that a natural opening involves already having a reliable circle of friends, I won't be able to open naturally. So assume I'm using a routine that feels sincere to me to break the ice. If/when the set invites me to pull up a chair, is that essentially all their is to it? Sit down at their table and start enjoying the company of my new friends?

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Sets can end as quickly as they finish, so in short, the answer is no. They can change their minds about you at any time. It does however mean that you have reached the hook point and they like your company. So continue doing wha tyou were doing in order for them to like you, but less routines and more natural C&F.

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Solomon thanks a lot for your post. Very well done.

Speaking of the sexual inuendo,,, it reminded me of one of my own concepts that I work on. I guess I would call it "Ultimate Charm". The guy with ultimate charm is the one who can get away with saying just about anything. It's sort of a broad concept. But if you can envision a guy who can approach the "Granny's Bingo leauge" and get the old ladies laughing their asses of to a bunch of dirty jokes, that's the "zone" I'm talking about. It's a skill.

But in regards to this
I think perhaps a good mindset to be in when delivering that sexual inuendo is the guy crackin jokes on old ladies and not the scary guy telling coconut jokes and staring at girls tits. Maybe the sexual inuendo is a test. I think they "read' you big time. If you're going to be "sweaty" and weird, well then it's over. But if you are normal about it, then they know you're the real deal.

But if you are on your game, you'll know the limit. I don't think going too far is a problem either, since if done correctly, once that line is delivered correctly, you're "changing chanels" anyways to create the contrast and generate interest.

Thanks.

Thanks for the post man, this is what i've been looking for to guide me as i've been trouble find the right type of seduction techniques, routines, and openers to use. This is why I had so much trouble finding something for me as everything is based off MM, SS, and all of that sort of stuff.

Thanks a lot. I think this will help me develop my character and life a lot better.

great post, i especially love the mixed message part, thats how i been played on with a girl i recently met =P