Hey Rye, first question on a PUA site, actually I posted this in newbie section but I'll give the condensed section here. I number closed a Brazilian HB-8 in New York city. Plenty of IOIs and kino. We spoke about Brazil since I'm going there in a couple weeks. I closed by asking for her number, saying I'd call her to talk more about Brazil. I live in Philadelphia and only make it to NYC about once a month. Should I call her soon? If so, what do I say since I can't make plans for a few weeks from now? If not, can I call her the next time I'm in the city (3-4 weeks) even though we only met once with no contact in between? I appreciate the help. Also, are you still doing private workshops?

Is it possible to go from the rebound guy to just the guy? If the girl is into you and vice versa but she is emotionally f-ed up from a previous relationship is there a strategy for simultaneously getting her over it AND getting her solidly with YOU in the moment?

Ok sorry for the long post here is the story

My friend has a cousin, by his standards she is a HB9 min. My friend was frequently trying to get her to hang out with him with her girlfriends but she always found some reason to refuse. Yesterday i took his phone and called her by myself (we never spoke or seen each other before) and started talking to her as if i was him, we talked for about 2 min until she noticed that it was not him, i continued the conversation for like 5 more mins, i negged her, made her laugh unstoppably during the conversation and promised to call tomorrow from my number the next day. Next day i called her at about 2 pm, suggest to met, she objected that she does not even know me, she needs to study, etc, i made few jokes and she agreed to meet me in the evening (it took about 2 mins to get her to agree)

I call her at about 7.30 pm and ask if she is ready and she starts giving me this bullshit about studying again, i make fun of her for being inconsistent, the conversation last for about 5 mins, during which i make fun o her, she laughs and everything seems fluent, but i get the feeling she has too much power in this situation, as if i am the only one who is interested in the meeting and that 5 min of persuading her to meet me is really enough. I refute her suggestion to meet another day by telling that im very busy actually and that today is the only chance she will get with me in a "cocky/funny style", then i tell her to call me when she will make up her mind and hang the phone.

she messages me in an hour telling that she will be finished working on her thesis late and it will be too late to go somewhere, but we can still meet for a short period of time.

I replied with: i have met with my friends already, will call you some other day (i think it was DHV as i was not sitting there waiting for her to call,)

She replied ok then, we will meet each other next time

Now what should i do next? She really seemed interested in me but was was playing hard to get by making me convince her to meet with me.

I have few options

Call her in like 4-5 days and try to arrange the meeting again
Call her in like 2 days and just chat for a while to establish some comfort (what should i talk about with her?) and then call again in like 2 day and arrange a meeting
What would you do?

how can you practise pick up when you have no car, live in the middle of no where, your 15 years old, your school has few people and there all not very good looking,you have the worst rep in your school and your mates never invite you out because you live 30 miles away also my parents hate me and wont let me have people round anymore!! haha have fun finding an answer to that one only 234 days till college (including holidays). feel free to give me tips for college also if your ever coming to england during 2010-2012 feel free to tell me i would like to attend one of your workshops they sound pretty cool

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Hey Rye,
I have been hanging out with this HB9. I was pre-gaming with my friends and her friends. One of her friends (HB8.5) was pretty drunk and I picked up on little subtle hints her friends were dropping. We ran out of beer and I asked, "Could have a sip?" I took her beer can and poured her remaining beer in my dixie cup. I told her, "I'm just kidding I'll share it with you." When she reached for my beer I pulled it away and laughed along with her all her friends. She was embarrassed and walked off saying, "I don't know about him." Her friends called me an asshole, so I told them "I only did it so you guys wouldn't have to babysit her and be forced to come back home early from the clubs." They were astonished that I picked up on the fact that she was drunk and they didn't want her friend drinking anymore. They said, "You knew." I said, "Yes... She was TRASHED." I know I am fine with the girl I am interested in, but I am worried that her friend will try to intervene the connection we share.

What do you think I can do to get her friend to see my good side? I was thinking of buying her friend a six pack and explaining why I did what I did. What are your thoughts?

Ive tried joining clubs before but there all afterschool and my parents cant pick me up... hmm ide almost forgot about online stuff ill start practising with that i guess.

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Hello, HOW ARE YOU, I have a question and probably is really basic, but here I go. I am in high school and I met this girls 2 weeks ago, she is interested in my I see the IOIs and she is trying to get mi attention almost every time that we are in the school, but I have to quiestions here, She has a boyfriend (I guess that nothing serious acording to the way that she acts whits me, how can I eliminate that obstacle. Second question, how should I ask her to go out, we live in a small town so is not to mucho to do, but what ideas cna you give me?

Hey guys, sorry on the lack of replies lately! I'm currently at the end of term and I've got a bunch of assignments and midterms to do, so I'll try to hammer out some replies soon as I can, but if I don't get to you, that's why!

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Through a mutal friend I met a girl & got word back that she thought I was "cute", so through these friends we set a date up with them at a bar so we could hang out. It was clear it was a date & the word I got was she was excited about going out with me.

Went great & after I asked for her IM which she said she "didn't use much" but the next day she got mine from the friend & was messaging me 1st saying she had a great time, so I certainly took it as she was into me. So I got her number & set up another date which, she wanted to do the same thing, & called her about mid-week just to chat. She also IMed me another time.

Then the friend that set us up tells me she has a boyfriend. They had delibertly not told me because they wanted us to go out. The girl is in college & the relationship is long distance & on the rocks, & he is a real loser who has been introuble with the law & never comes to visit her, & she may see him every 3 weeks if she makes the effort. The girl is great & deserves better so I have no problem trying to get this girl.

The next date I thought went really well until the ride home. On the way back we were in the backseat alone so I'm looking at her trying to get her to look over so I could kiss her, I was obvious & I could sense her getting really nervous & pulling back, & she got quite & wouldn't even look at me stopped holding my arm, so I totally backed off & I didn't try when I walked her to her door either. Which now I don't know if that was the right thing or not plowing in for the kiss, but my interpetitation though was she had mixed feelings & was torn about the boyfriend situation & backing off & I needed to take it slow.

The next day the friend told me she "likes you a lot" but needed some time to think & decide & wants to be more "friendly" right now. Talking with her the 2nd date, I had found out she liked basketball so I had already set up for us to go to a basketball game a couple days later, at that point. I thought about maybe canceling but she IMed me the day before & sounded excited to go, so we did. Had a good time, but it could have been a mistake as there isn't much oppertunity to be romantic at a basketball game & I got the same vibe walking her to her car even if I had tried to kiss her.

So this is where I am at. Seems I have fallen firmly in the friend zone, I haven't heard from her in 4 or 5 days & to make it worse she went home for the holidays where she gets to spend several days with the boyfriend. I need a serious game plan, because there is little time at this point. When she gets back she will be really busy studying for exams & then probably gone for several weeks for christmas.

#1 Should I call her as soon as she gets back into town today or give her space to decide & let her call me? Keeping in mind at this point I'm affraid she might not though having not heard from her while she has been gone, & since she didn't make the effort to come back sooner so we could hang out, when I found out from someone else she could have & had considered coming back it if she "got bored" at home. Then again I think she needed some time to think.

#2 Should I just lay it all out there & be honest about where I stand & push her to make a decision, or should I just be patient & hang in the friendly zone gradually trying to up things?

any advice is welcomed. Thanks.

if you could lay one mpua which one would it be and why?

"You seem pretty cool and we get along really well! I'm always looking to make new friends, so we should definitely meet up and chill together in real life!"

See how she responds to that, I wouldn't push for the number all in one message from my past experiences. Then if she agrees you ask her for her phone number, or arrange to meet somewhere public that you can go do something together, like near a pub, a coffee shop, a park, an art gallery, or whatever you're into.

Remember not to ask her if she thinks you should meet, you just say that you guys should meet like I did.

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2 parts.

a.) I have lived a terribly crazy interesting life, like we are talking about living on a boat for four years to doing every drug there is and everything in between. yet I still seem to be incredibly uninteresting. When i talk about my life (I've learned only talk about it when asked) I can't seem to express myself without completely alienating them because they havn't lived such a crazy life.

how do i become interesting when talking about myself and these experiences that I would love to share with the world?




b.)my oneitis the girl that i joined this fourm for in the first place broke up with her boyfriend and came running back to me. (date planned for sometime) So I am in an incredibly good position for a long term relationship. I don't know anything about those....


c.) when your incredibly unspecific about setting the day/time of a date how do you rebound with more specificness.

Good questions and I promise to respond in detail between the 13th-15th of December!

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Hey Rye Lee

I'm a teenage afc. I've been lurking on here for a while and this site has helped me battle through anxiety and depression so I've made a lot of progress. I have also been working on my appearance/style and conversing with women but I am still lacking alot in that area. I have trouble keeping conversation face to face but when I'm chatting on the computer it goes way smoother.

Where would you suggest I go from here and do you have any tips for conversation and highschool pick up.
Also where do you think some places are to go for dates.

ps. I live in London

What should I say if a girl compliments my necklace. She works the counter at a store that I like to go to. Its usually not to busy because I go in the morning.

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