Thursday i will be going to my first ever frat party. it is supposed to be a combined fraternity/sorority party, so there should be women there. I am lab partners with one of the guys who is in the frat (but not friends...yet). that is how i got invited. do you guys have any tips for me so i dont end up leaning against the wall drinking beer, looking like a loser?

another thing, a good buddy of mine got invited also, but he is pretty nerdy/unsocial so he wont go without persuasion. i could get him to go, which might make me feel a bit more comfortable. the only thing is, he is not attractive and is about 3x as shy as me (which is NOT good). no offense to him, but would he bring me down, or make me look good by standing next to him? (and yes i do feel some shame in that lol)

don't disrespect the frat brothers in any way...they are brothers and will ban together in hating you if you do disrespect them.

You should PM Chief on this one...he is in a frat.

Well being in a fraternity I think I can throw you a few pointers.

Bonita is right, I wouldn't insult any brothers, in addition, I would stay away from the drunkest ones, they can be a little unpredictable and can ruin your night just because they're idiots.

I would however, go up to your lab partner very soon, and jump into his set meet the brothers hes close to. From there start building rapport with them and you will be better off with anyone else you meet from there.

I would run your game as if you were anywhere else. Frat parties do not tend to be any different than a regular house party except probably the number of inebriated individuals. Sorority girls can be difficult as they will sometimes clump and those who are surrounded by guys can be either be hit on constantly or be "one of the guys" which is nice, as they are usually awesome girls but it also means they will be protected like a brother.

I would make one other suggestion, and I dont mean it to scare you in any way. But do your best not to push any of the girls very hard, what i mean by that is, it is possible that you can make on girl uncomfortable and therefore have you blacklisted for a while for the whole house. Its tough I know, but do the best you can, unless you are constantly insulting them or making them feel very uncomfortable you should be totally fine.

Good luck.

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The frat party. Yes, my favorite place to get crossfaded and hook up with girls and then forget about it until they remind me about it on campus. I'm also in a fraternity, so here are my thoughts. If you follow my advice, you'll be the princess of the ball

There are two kinds of parties - kick backs and huge blowouts. The fact people are being invited from outside of the house indicates that its a blowout. You being invited is a good sign, when I invite guys I don't know well, it's because I think they might be interested in pledging the house. This is a key point because it's the key to your frame for the night.

Repeat these words after me: I'm planning on rushing Delta House (or whichever house it is). This isn't about just being nice to the actives, this about them taking you under their wing and them showing you a great time. You're giving yourself INSTANT higher value to yourself and to all the brothers by saying that you like what they're doing there and that you have the "good sense" of wanting in on it. If they're looking for new members, you'll suddenly find yourself being given drinks and being introduced to all of the regular girls. Stick with the guy who invited you, make sure the guys you meet know that "credit" for bringing you around belongs to him. See if the bros in the house are having a pre-party and try to get into it.

It doesn't matter if you're actually interested in pledging or not, fake it 'til you make it. I went in with this unsure attitude and I ended up joining lol. Regarding your other friend, leave him at home. He sounds like he's gonna be a total drag on you. He doesn't give you any higher value, why would you hang out with a guy who's socially awkward unless YOU are socially awkward? No, DTM, you're hot property and you have to show yourself to be.

If there's a theme, dress up for it FOR SURE. Go a little over the top and get one related super peacocky item. We had our 80's rap party and one of my more awkward bros wore a hubcap around his neck like Flava Flav. He got so much attention it was ridiculous and he didn't know what to do with it which was even funnier.

Don't go for the super drunk girls - other girls will see that and rule you out as a creep. If there are only sorority girls... that kind of sucks. They're insanely cliquey and you may want to read a little bit about girl signals and how to copy them. But you can open small sets of them and ask their opinion on being in a frat - most of them will tell you they don't like frat guys. Then ask them "then what are you doing here?!" If you meet other GDIs (God-damn Independents) you can always talk about how weird frat parties are and build rapport.

On the dance floor, just be the biggest guy around. Don't walk up behind girls and grind on them with your hard-on, they don't like that. Just approach a group and start dancing and having fun. It doesn't even matter if you're a good dancer if you're having fun. Raise the roof, do the shopping cart, rock the Macarena on Lil Wayne songs! Don't drink too much and don't offer to walk wasted girls home just because you're a nice guy, they're such a hassle.

Hand girls your cell phone, they'll know what to do.

So, in summary:
- Say you're interested in Rushing the house
- Don't come with friends who will show Lower Value
- Give the guy that invited you props but don't hang on him either
- Dress the theme or dress like a champ
- Just have a blast and you should start seeing IOIs from tons of hot girls

in a high testosterone environment like that you should definitely try to acquaint yourself with some of the other guys in the house while you are sober (before the party). make them laugh, build a connection with them so they remember you when you see them at the party. if more people "know" your face, more people will "accept" you. instead of just being "timmy's nerdy lab partner" or whatever. i dunno how your friendship is with timmy-frat-boy, but you said you weren't friends yet. so def try to get yourself known to some of the other guys. it would help if you knew some of the girls that are gonna be there too. good luck.

WROOOONG

Do not run game here as if you were in a bar, especially if you're using any of Mystery's routines. College game has a very different dynamic, and if you're using indirect game, you'll find yourself going against the grain.

IMO, the key to college game consists of three elements (in no particular order):
1. Direct Game
2. Natural Game
3. Social Circle Game

Essentially, that just means having a lot of balls and being popular.

I definitely agree with all of pinkyy's points. VERY useful shit there.

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I'm going to agree with chief on this.. They're very different than house parties.. They're off the hook though so have fun

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i usually have trouble defining friendship. we are lab partners, i am not the nerdy one (we both do equal amount of work). we talk during the labs and laugh at stuff. we exchanged numbers a few weeks ago. IMO i consider that a good acquaintance.

i dont know how much sarging im going to be doing there. if the opportuinty lends itself, i sure will, but i'd be happy with just meeting people. this is my first semester here and im trying to make connections. with a lot of connections sometimes relationships can just fall into your lap anyway.

i also met 2 other dudes today that are in another fraternity that seemed to take an interest in me. they asked me to come hang out some time and we exchanged numbers.

Don't listen to them. RUN YOUR GAME. Your game should be on 24/7.

be aware that this can be a smaller social circle, so don't go running too many lines etc

but at the same time don't be afraid, do be sociable and talk with people. simply just get comfortable with it

don't grow roots and be stuck in one location either if you are not enjoying it, move around to the different parts of the party ("circle around")

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I went to my first one last year.
To be honest I was a bit intimidated for obvious reasons. I'm not in a fraternity, but was invited by a good buddy. He was the only one I knew there... it was a small house PACKED, like 40 dudes and 40 chicks (100's of beers, bottles, etc). I felt really awkward especially because I had just come to college and had a bit less social skill than most of those there.

However it isnt all that its cracked up to be. Like you see in the movies, haha! Nothing like that. It should have at least a few beautiful women and lots of cocky assholes.

I think the best thing to do would be to have your friend that you know there, introduce you do a few of HIS friends there. Then go from there. Just branch out like a tree limb. My problem was, me and the 2 buddies that came with me there (only I knew One guy there) just stood close together and drank. Attempted conversation with one or two girls and gave up. If I could redo it, i'd branch out.

Like i've been thinking the past few weeks.. "just if I started this pick-up thing back in high school...."

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DTM, you're very very right. I'm currently reading Conquer Your Campus and his hypothesis is that College Game is so much more about building social circles and being a guy that's HAVING FUN than it is spitting game. You gotta give love to get love. Just have a great time and take it all in stride.

All those guys are trying to rush you. They wouldn't be so nice to you if you weren't a first semester freshman. It's like a guy wouldn't be acting a certain way to a girl if he didn't want to have sex with her, so you're wise in withholding a definition of friendship.

However, take advantage of your status as a potential rushee and go to all the Fraternity parties and drink all their free alcohol, sarge all their women (other freshman girls, mostly).

im a 22 year old transfer student, if that makes a difference. i think its going to be a big blowout, like totally packed. it starts at 10, but i think im gonna arrive around 10:20/30

im nervous as hell, i hope i dont freeze up