I completely agree with you. When i go out i go to have fun - that used to mean getting piss wasted - now it means pickup up girls.

My closest friends are all RAFCs which means they guzzle down beer till they are piss wasted and talk shit about me while i go pick up girls. What will end up happening is after i've gotten a few numbers one or two of my friends will get " invigorated" and try to pick up some girls. Well they have no game BUT they normally do have good social skills. So instead of just getting politely rejected by girls - they get angrily rejected by MANY girls.

Piece of advice for anyone else in a similar situation - you DO NOT want to be seen hanging around a friend who does this. It is a HUGE DLV and will result in flakes of your N-Closes.

And for the record i usually open the first few sets i see with drink in hand - it shows you are there to have a good time - but by the time i'm done with it i usually am into building attraction with a girl or have just one a free drink from some kinds of game [fav is 5 questions]

get a soda and if anyone asks it is a rum and coke.

I get girls either way.

I feel guility if a girl is all over me and she's drunk and im sober, but she gets drunk to have the confidence to talk to me.

Otherwise I'll get trashed and just have a fun time, who cares if you pass out in the pool at 5am after getting a bj in the hot tube

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When i go out i generally drink, however i wish i sometimes didnt drink as much as i did.

If you DONT drink, but you want others to think you are get a soda water with a lime. Or just order a water. The benefit the soda water has over the just plain water is that people can sip your drink and if they are 1. drunk themselves, or 2. just ignorant of what drinks taste like, you can generally get away with saying you are drinking a vodka tonic. Not so much with water... yet, with water you can get the 'good guy' card due to the fact that you are 1. not drinking and 2. able to offer drunk people an alternative beverage, which is often quite appreciated.

imo drink redbull vodkas cause they kickass!

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Can't say I EVER have anyone question what I'm drinking, or ask to taste it, so I don't see the big panic over it, just drink some pop, or water and it's really none of their business what you're drinking.

As far as redbull and vodka goes, it has been proven to cause heart attacks in people, so I highly recommend against it. Jagerbombs on the other hand, I haven't heard anything negative about. If you DO want energy drinks with alcohol in them, then try out the alcoholic Rockstars, as they removed the ingredient that induces heart attacks and they come in 3 different flavors, which you can pick up at a liquor store, so clubs should be carrying them as well.

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Redbull and vodka causes heart attacks!!! I so should be dead by now

Well, i CAN say that i have. I have also been 'called out' on drinking water. Perhaps this is because I have only really been out in bars/clubs in Canada and Australia where we take our drinking quite seriously... Australia specifically. Regardless of whether anyone asks or a sip i still think this is solid advice, just as your suggestion to drink pop is legitimate.

as for your disclaimer about drinking redbull with vodka, this is old news. The Redbull can itself says DO NOT MIX WITH ALCOHOL. I dont think there is anything specific in Vodka that makes it more dangerous than jagger... the basic line of thinking is that you shouldnt mix UPPERS (redbull) with downers (alcohol)... that said, I should also be dead for drinking them.

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usually, what i do (in my GPUA position) it to drink moderately in the social gathering (assuming we are with friends about to go out), and once there i buy my self one drink for the whole night..

that way i don't see myself reduced by alcohol but at the same time it does what i'm interested the most, to gradually obliviate AA

i'm ususally driving so i dont drink. or if my friends go "have a drink!! " i'll reply "sorry i'm driving tonight so no drinks for me"

I try not to drink when i'm trying to game. I known many times where drinking has impaired me from working my game. I Lost #-close many times cause i would wanna go open up another set or dont see the IoI . But when i do drink i'm with my friends and just there having Fun and chillin out and not really trying to game.

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I think 1 drink is fine.

That means 1 serving of alcohol, be it beer, hard, mixed, or wine.

Anymore than that, no matter what your alcohol tolerance is, is just going to ruin your mindset.

When I go clubbing now, I only have one drink at the start of the night, just to kickstart things.

Huh, I usually end up drinking anyway even if i dont want to... I have no self-discipline. But Im working on it...

What about other stuff like cigarets or weed?
Any thoughts?

If you keep depending on beer to support your weakness, what will you do when beers not around?

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I agree, becoming dependant on drink sucks. It happened to me, when i saw a hot girl i would just think ' Shit i was i had a beer' because i needed it to feel confident, even if i didnt get tipsy. It was crazy and it took me a while to get it out of my system. Apart from that i dont see why you cant go out and have one drink, or get wasted.

No drinking is worse than 2-3 beers or shots for me. I still can spill good speech and I just feel better, relaxed and "in the mood".

From my view cigarettes are a social thing, calms the nerves. Makes things flow easier. While it is bad I can see why people do it. Weed on the other hand im building a love/hate relationship. I smoke a fair bit of that good Canadian weed but its not really good in social situations unless you can cover up your "highness" with visine and cologne and flow naturally, because then you just look like some bumbling high bastard. I see drinking as "the" social drug, makes things flow perfectly but too much will turn you into an idiot. Drugs and intoxicants are bit of a touchy thing, some people feel that its a requirement to party, some feel the other way. Ive seen both ends of the spectrum and Im really heading towards being sober but finding people that respect being sober in my neighborhood is proving to be the harder challenge than not drinking/getting high.

PS I also have those same ski goggles in your photo. Anon figments's correct?

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