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Great post; but I have to comment the sex.. Women love sex even more than man, this has been known for centuries; Just look up the old Greek story about Tiresias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiresias

So technically the myth is as Tiresias revealed "woman's greatest secret: that she receives the greater pleasure: Of ten parts a man enjoys one only."

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Great post; but I have to comment the sex.. Women love sex even more than man, this has been known for centuries; Just look up the old Greek story about Tiresias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiresias

So technically the myth is as Tiresias revealed "woman's greatest secret: that she receives the greater pleasure: Of ten parts a man enjoys one only."

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I used to say the same thing, but can you truly concretely prove for a fact that women love sex more than men? I sure can't. I don't know of anyone that has the capability of being both a man and a woman and examining the difference between their sex drives for sure. That's like 2 people arguing over who loves cake more. They both love cake, so who really cares who loves it more?

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That's like 2 people arguing over who loves cake more. They both love cake, so who really cares who loves it more?



I love cake more!! There...it's settled :)


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That's like 2 people arguing over who loves cake more. They both love cake, so who really cares who loves it more?



I love cake more!! There...it's settled :)
I'll bet you do. :wink: :wink:

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That's like 2 people arguing over who loves cake more. They both love cake, so who really cares who loves it more?



I love cake more!! There...it's settled :)
I'll bet you do. :wink: :wink:
Jeez...no wonder newbies find PU so confusing....all these innuendos!! Ya'll keep things light hearted...thanks for being an inspiration to all us young punks who don't know nothing. jj

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I love cake more!! There...it's settled :)
I'll bet you do. :wink: :wink:
Jeez...no wonder newbies find PU so confusing....all these innuendos!! Ya'll keep things light hearted...thanks for being an inspiration to all us young punks who don't know nothing. jj
Innuendos are what make it so much fun! That's how you create powerful sexual frames my friend. I can talk to a girl about doing my laundry or making a sandwich or something completely unsexual, but by using vocal inflection at the right times and picking the right words, I can also be conveying highly sexual things. It's incredibly important to learn and many guys don't place enough value on it.

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I'll bet you do. :wink: :wink:
Jeez...no wonder newbies find PU so confusing....all these innuendos!! Ya'll keep things light hearted...thanks for being an inspiration to all us young punks who don't know nothing. jj
Innuendos are what make it so much fun! That's how you create powerful sexual frames my friend. I can talk to a girl about doing my laundry or making a sandwich or something completely unsexual, but by using vocal inflection at the right times and picking the right words, I can also be conveying highly sexual things. It's incredibly important to learn and many guys don't place enough value on it.
I hear you...just be sure to smile and wink, etc. I was just commenting how such a great post can still be "innuendo-ed" to cake...which as you say, is awesome. Just another example of how you can make ANYTHING lighthearted, with a little clever thinking...be easy. jj

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How about this one Bonita?

Myth: Women don't like sexual innuendos.

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How about this one Bonita?

Myth: Women don't like sexual innuendos.

Haha personally I love sexual innuendos because they are fun and light-hearted. BUT you do have to be the "type" of person who makes sexual innuendos. By that I mean...if you have a friendly relationship with a girl and you never make innuendos, making an innuendo will seem totally random, unwarranted, and possibly even creepy. The key is to build it into your personality and once she understands that making sexual innuendos is just something you do, then you can get away with saying almost anything sexual to her and she will laugh it off. Solomon II (formerly Dalziel) is great at this. And Rye I am used to it from you as well...so that pretty much gives you a golden ticket as well.

Women will ACT offended because 1.) we think we should act offended 2.) we have no idea what to say in response so we just act offended--but it is playful like "omg you're horrible!"


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Myth: Does a guy have to lower your value for a girl to view him as higher value?
This is the whole theory behind negs...knock down her value so she lowers her bitch shield and realizes that you are a great guy and SHE is lucky to have YOU hit on her. Teasing/banter can be fun and light-hearted but think about it...would you want a girl that is low value? NO! Then why are you trying to make her low value?

I have always said that I want to date someone that is as equally smart if not smarter than me, but that doesn't mean I am going to lower my intelligence so that a guy I am into is smarter than me. You shouldn't have to worry about lowering a woman's value, you should focus on increasing your value. And when you truly are a high value man, you won't have to belittle others because they will see the value in you.
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Myth: Does a guy has to flirt with a girl indirectly to get her
Direct can work just as well if not better than indirect. Both methods have advantages and disadvantages. With direct, sometimes you can sense an instant attraction and there is no need to beat around the bush and play games to make her wonder if you are attracted to her. Indirect is to buid attraction when there is uncertainty, but once you are certain of attraction there is no need to be indirect.

Some guys are just more comfortable being direct because it fits their personality. There is a confidence level with it, but it is not soley based on confidence....it can just be a favored style.

It also depends on the location and how you deliever it. I saw a video from AFC Adam where he did a direct opener saying something like "Hey I am on my way to meet my friends but I wanted to say hi and get your number because I would just kick myself if I didn't because you are beautiful" (or something of that nature). He is still being direct because he is stating his intentions but he does not come off as needy and he demonstrates social proof. And guess what...he got her. Myth busted.
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Myth: Is there such a thing as being too alpha?
I think if you are a TRUE alpha male, then there is no such thing as being TOO alpha. You are just a natural leader. The issue arises when men (or women) who are not truly alpha attempt to be so. They are the ones that go over the top because they don't really understand what it means to be alpha and act on a preconceived notion of what they believe it means. Then in turn they act like fools, which leads the real alphas to AMOG them, and then the other guys fire back in attempt not to be AMOGed....and so the vicious cycle continues. Alpha is a is a state, not a concrete or tangible thing...In my opinon, the only people that are TOO alpha are betas acting like alphas.

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This is a great post!

I'll add my experiences

1. That's completely true, but women do respect strong men, and want to be called on their bratty behavior, when they know their being ridiculous.

2. I agree women are MUCH more affected by societal programming than men are. You don't get to go after what you actually want for fear of social repurcussions.

3. Agreed. If I had a dollar for every girl whose told me they hate girls because they're catty, I'd be retired in Romania with a castle Rick H style. Women tend to be "frenemies" as was documented brillantly in the 5th season of Sex and the city. Because women are not celebrated for competing overtly as men are, they compete much more subtlety and competitively.

4. I think you're underestimating the competition element between women especially in clubs which are like going back to high school. Girls in clubs are DEF compeiting to be the hottest girl and get the highest value guys.

5. Ummm I disagree. Women can't always have sex with someone they WANT to have sex with. But it's always an option if they drop standards and are willing to be aggressive.

6. I agree 100%. The idea that all women especially beautiful ones have great social skills is BULLSHIT.

7. Yeah that's a huge piece of the game. Just getting comfortable talking to women about sex is huge.

8. Yeah that's a lame opener when guys say that... Women are people too they don't always have to be happy.

9. No, no that's totally true :)

10. Yeah women are actually much less in control of their sex lives than men are because for the most part they are not going to approach guys. So they can only pick from the guys who approach them.

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Myth 1: Women don't like "nice" guys.
Wrong...no girl wakes up and wished that she meets a guy that treats her like crap! But women tend to date those types of guys because they do something that "nice" guys don't tend to do....they give the girl enough time to miss them. By that I mean, nice guys will call a girl everyday to see how it went and make them feel better if they had a bad day. Other guys will call every other day or so and in that period of time that she doesn't talk to him, she starts to miss him. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." These are her thoughts exactly: "omg when is he going to call?! What is he doing that he can't call me? I have so much to tell him!" etc... It is a love hate relationship. I'm not saying you need to be a jerk! Please don't do that!! But you have to give her the chance to miss you and WANT you.

Myth 2: Women have it easy because they can be emotional and say what they want
Ohh lordy no! While women do have the advantage of social acceptance when it comes to talking about feelings, we do not have the luxury of talking about our TRUE feelings. If guys have a problem, they bring it up and get it over with. But women exist in groups, not as individuals. Our entire lives revolve around a social network and without it we are outcasts. Women don't survive well as outcasts. So women don't speak their true emotions if they feel it is for the best of the group and their position in the group. We tend to hint at our feelings to gauge whether or not we can express them, but most of the time...what you hear, is only half of what we truly feel.

Myth 3: Women get along so well with their friends because they are always talking/gossiping
Within any given clique, there is another clique (and possibly even another one). You always have the queen bee--sometimes it might be a pair though. She is the AFOG (alpha female) and the one that everyone looks to for acceptance. If she talks, she either talks over the other girls or the girls stop talking to listen to her. When making plans, they run them by her...is she doesn't like them, not only does she state it, but she has the ability to change the group's plans. If a new member tries to join the group, her opinion of that girl/guy shapes everyone elses opinion and may determine whether or not they are friends with them (if they do remain friends even though the queen bee doesn't like her/him, they will do so privately). Though girls within a friend group all act friendly when together, there are some girls in the group that bond better than others and they form their own group within the group and even gossip about the other girls (their own friends).

Myth 4: Women like to wear tight little clothes
Okay so sometimes that little black dress makes us feel sexy and gives us a boost of confidence but for the most part, we don't dress up like that for ourselves...we do it for you...the guys! Those stilettos hurt our feet and we can't bend down to pick up our purse in that little mini-dress...so what makes you think we enjoy it?! We hear guys say that they prefer a girl who just wears sweats and a tshirt with our hair up, but we aren't stupid....we see you stare at that girl with her booty hanging out of that miniskirt and women crave attention from guys.

Myth 5: Women can have sex whenever they want because men won't turn down sex
I'm not even going to get into the point that men will turn down women that completely ugly by their standards. I am focusing on attractive women....and they sitll get turned down for sex. Now I am not saying it happens all the time. In reality most guys would have sex with an attractive women if she offered, but women cannot have sex anytime they want just because they are women.

Myth 6: Women don't need to learn PU
Women, in general, are naturally more socialable and learn how to interact at a younger age and faster pace than men. But not all women know how to attract and sustain a healthy relationhip. Women should learn PU not to learn how to meet a guy, but how to meet a GREAT guy!

Myth 7: Women don't like sex and don't like to talk about it
False....next question! haha but seriously...sex is enjoyable for us too! Society just tells us we can't talk about it openly. But thanks to Cosmo and other magazines that is starting to change. Some women may be too shy to talk about sex, that is true...but most women talk about sex and they talk about it in detail. Your girlfriends will gush to their friends EVERYTHING about you and the sex...so beware!

Myth 8: Women should always smile
Nothing gets me more angry when I'm just sitting around on a bench or something and some guy tells me to smile or that I look sad. I'm not going to sit there cheesin just because society tells me to....if I am bored I am going to look bored; if I am sad I have the right to look sad....don't tell me to smile unless you know me and know why I am upset and are trying to cheer me up.

Myth 9: Women can't read
Hahaha ok, jk I was just making sure you were still paying attention!

Myth 10: Women are in control of their love life
Women suck at relationships. There I said it! I have spent so many hours listening to my friends complain about how they can't find anyone good. In reality they are their own worst enemy and they need a man to protect them from themselves. Women destroy their chances with great guys everyday in a number of ways....she will dismiss a guy that is talking to her because she thinks she is out of his league, she won't make eye contact with a cute guy because she is either shy or trying to be coy (that is a personal favorite that i notice all the time), she lets her friends opinions control her own, she doesn't know what she wants in a man or thinks she knows but is wrong, and she won't admit when she needs help dating.


Ok so if you made it through this list of myths, congratulations...you are now wiser :) Ok so mensa isn't knocking down your door but I hope that gave you some insight into how women really are....these are things that women are too afraid to tell anyone...even their closest friends. Some of these you may have already known and there are many more myths that I just couldn't get to. However, I feel that these ones really sum it all up well.

If you have any more questions or want to add your own that I couldn't get to please be my guest....


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Wow bonita, i know it sounds stupid but i didnt know that women thought "when is he going to call, when is he going to text?" etc etc, so if theyre attracted to the guy what would they be thinking?


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Wow bonita, i know it sounds stupid but i didnt know that women thought "when is he going to call, when is he going to text?" etc etc, so if theyre attracted to the guy what would they be thinking?
Yes if a woman is attracted to a guy, she is going to be anxious and wonder when he will call her next. Some girls literally keep their phone by them for that reason and others may walk away from it briefly but secretly hope that when they pick it up they have a new voicemail or text from him.

Even if the woman is attracted to you and is hoping you call, that doesn't mean she will call you. You may be sitting aounnd waiting for her to call in which case you both are playing the same game. But yes women do think that way.

It is also psychological. Her anxiety over when you will call produces symptoms of stress which can be unpleasant. They surmount and then finally you call and she is so relieved! You remove the negative feelings of stress and she links "you" with the feeling of relief and satisfaction. It is simple negative reinforcement by which you remove an unwanted stimulus (anxiety/stress) to encourage the occurance of a behavior (attraction).


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Myth: Are girls socially programed for the most part to go for taller guys

I am asking this because I think it is true, and it comes from another thread where height is being talked about.


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