Hi everyone, it's Jarett.

Over the course of ten years of being in the seduction community(starting with SoSuave.net and moving to mASF) I had thought I had learned it all. However, I didn't. There's still so much that I have to learn. Just recently, I conquered my approach anxiety for good. Now you may have seen little gimmicks and tricks I created before to combat this but I finally feel liberated and unchained by my inner voice to now go and approach any woman with any kind of material.

Now onto the thread. I think too many people are using the same material (Mystery, Juggler, etc) and it's starting to lose it's value. Don't get me wrong, some things about those methods are great like neg theory, body language technique, etc - those are universals we all can use in our every day life that will never be called out on. But, the words in which we use and the routines in which we play must be innovative. Not the same old same old.

I would like to see in this thread a contribution from the whole Pickup Artist forum community regarding your own material i.e what do you say to a girl when you approach her, what's the next thing you say or do, where do you take the conversation usually?
This is not a mechanical style of thinking, it's a preparation style. I feel too many times we go out and stumble because we just don't know what to talk about. Now sure we can have confidence and little to no approach anxiety, good body language, fun vibe, but we can that but we also need words to deliver it with.

So that's why this thread is here. To make an impact with anyone including me who is in pretty dire need for some new material. I will share with you what I use. I ask for you not to critique it or say yours is better, but just to read it.

Before I post it, I really would like to see everyone here post what routines they use, what words they used to start a conversation, and where they take it from there. Do you go straight for the make out? Get a number? What. Think of this kinda as a poll but also as a informative thread to get new material and be inspired hopefully.

Ok, here's my material so far, and by no means is it great(it depends on which spectrum you're looking through):

Me: :Taps girl on shoulder:
Girl: :turns around:
Me: So I don't usually do this but.. you're giving me interesting vibes and I gotta know why.
Girl: :usually giggles: Oh? I don't know what it could be!
Me: Okay, ::extends hand:: I'm Jarett. Nice to meet you. My little cousin is throwing a theme party and ....

And from that point the conversation loses traction.

Now, while I'm doing this, my body language is strong I believe, my voice tone is calm and assuring, I may neg her or may not depends on the situation, my energy is usually high, so it's none of that being the problem. It's just what to say next.

So, Material. That's what's needed. I find some styles of material are a bit childish(I reckon Tyler Durden from RSD said you need to be immature with women and your game, but for some reason, I think quite the opposite. I see maturity as a huge factor and something I believe most women love in a man. But if the child-like material works well, let's use it. I still believe too many men Aren't mature enough and that's why women can be turned off but who knows)

Anyway, maybe I should create my own material and field test it. If I do, I will post it in this thread. I hope all of those reading today see where I'd love to go with this and would love to see your input. Not Mystery's, but your own material. I think when Mystery says he doesn't want to have a clone army of people like him he's kinda asking for it once he tells people to use his Method don't you think.

What makes you different than all the other "nice shoes are they real?" puas? Because I think girls will get tired of the same routines and it will be harder to use those routines to great success(not to say it'll be impossible but still maybe harder)

Okay, look forward to seeing what we all make of this.

PS: This thread applies to real world and online game. It doesn't matter. We just want to see the material(the what do you say when you meet or approach a girl). That's it. That's where I think a lot of the value, the meat is at.

Here's the template in which I think we should add our material into for this thread:

Your material/The Location in which you are using it in(Can be at Mall, Club, Book store, Online, etc):

And whether you are using this on a group or a single set:

Attraction:-Who lies more..(Indirect)
-x
-You have an amazing energy(Direct)


Comfort: -What brings you out to L.A(Vibing)
-I love adventure. If I could travel anywhere in the world I'd go to Greece, what about you?
-x


Seduction: -You have very lucious lips. (Kiss)
-Would you like to kiss me?
-x

From there it should be pretty easy. I foresee a bunch of guys telling you not to give her your name because it sacrifices value. They're more than likely keyboard jockeys. It's fine to give her your name because it gives you 2 fantastic tools to use. And remember, be friendly and laid back. Don't say anything in a serious or seductive tone or you'll creep her out. Now, let's have a look at those tools:

1. Name exchange. Because you give her your name, she will give you hers. Using her name while talking makes a good impression for some reason. Don't overdo it though, 2 or 3 times during the interaction is enough.

2. Handshake, of course! This gives you opportunities for more different kinds of kino than you think. Use your imagination... I'm not giving you all my stuff, but here are a few ideas.

- Most girls have a weak handshake; if she has a good grip you can tell her she'll make a great businesswoman some day.

- Tell her she has soft hands and ask if she moisturises. Personally, I have to moisturise my face and some girls find that interesting.

- Tell her right afterwards that handshakes are boring and give her a hug.

- Give her a twirl and tell her you like her style. Tell her you like what you see but you promise to keep your hands to yourself from now on because what you have is special and you don't want to ruin the friendship. This cracks girls up, and I'm sure you can tell why.

- There is something about every girl which stands out about them. Every girl. Even groups... I see girls wearing complimentary outfits, the same pair of boots but in a different colour, the same earrings, things like that. Use them as your excuse to approach. For example, something like, "So I just spied you from over there and noticed something... you take colour coordination really seriously huh?" would get her laughing and she'd say something about you.

So where do we go from stuff like this? Well, you should have the tools already... I get the impression that you don't hang out with many girls or talk to them a lot cos I always have shit to talk about with new girls thanks to the ones I already know. The key is to use what she gives you... something about her might remind you of a girl you already know, it might be her mannerisms or the way she dresses, something about her makeup, anything. Then you can do the whole "oh that reminds me" thing and tell her a funny story about that particular girl, something that happened to her that weekend or whatever. If you're not in the position to make use of this, I highly recommend you start hanging out with some girls and getting to know them just for the sake of it. It makes life so much easier.

If you don't know any girls like her or don't have any stories to hand, it's no biggie. Ask her what she's doing in town, comment on how girly or not girly it is, and talk about what your plans are. Remember, if she likes you then she'll give you the tools you need to keep talking so you don't need a bunch of ideas or routines in your head. Things should be smooth. So after some chit-chat you need to close, right? I'm not running you through any of my closes because I want you to use your own words. Rather, I'll give you some guidelines to follow:

- Depending on the situation you can either instant date or get her number. You should know from your conversation how busy she is, and if an instant date is possible then do a number close first - then have the idea pop into your head that you could just go and get a bite to eat now cos you're pretty hungry and she could do with setting her bags down for a while.

- For number closes, suggest she meets up with you and some friends and to bring people if she wants. It's far more relaxed that way and if she wants it to be just you and her she'll sure as hell let you know.

- Use something from your conversation in the close. This can be anything from her clothes, her plans for that day, or if you both happen to do the same stuff for fun.

- Set up a day 2 on the spot and call her to have a chat and let her know everything is still cool, rather than just getting her number to call her some time and trying to set up a day 2 over the phone.

- Don't get the number and bolt. Stick around and chat some more after you get it, that way it doesn't look like you wanted her number because conversation was running dry and you wanted to get the hell outta there.

From what you write, it seems like after 'nice to meet you' the pressure to keep the conversation going is entirely on her. She's not hooked yet, so she has no reason to keep it going. The basic principle a good friend taught me is 'lead or leave' - unless you can lead the conversation further, you might as well leave, because she sure as hell is not going to do it for you. Women like being lead, women like being dominated, so that's precisely what you gotta deliver.


[SHB] :usually giggles: Oh? I don't know what it could be!
[Jarett] I have an idea... you look like a good girl, but you have a very mischievious gleam in your eyes. There is a suppresed evil side to you, isn't there?
[SHB] I'm always a good girl!
[Jarett] Is that so? Let's find out.

And go into some bullshit test - number between 1 and 10, q-test, you can even run the cube. Say what you want about IVD's being too popular - there's a reason for that. Namely, they work.

Whatever happens, you're leading the interaction. Hope this helps.

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On we plough.

Love,

Ace

How so? Good post though bro

lol wrong website

and shhh... you're not supposed to talk about that site here

I'll share one of my original routines.

What to expect: Elicit a trance from memory of natural innocence and anchor yourself to a sense of pure bliss. Create attraction from emotional spikes that the two of you can share.

Prime time to do it: Early in isolation. Works even better if the two of you are a little tired from just having been dancing.

Where: Quieter part of the venue, preferably sitting down.

Routine:
PUA: Do you remember when we were just little kids and didn't have a care in the world? It was truly like living in the moment, wasn't it?
HB: Yeah...
PUA: I distinctly remember this one time when I was a little kid, when I first learned how to ride a bike. I was the happiest kid in the world! There I was, riding in circles all around the neighborhood nonstop as I would feel the wind in my hair and hear all the noises of other children playing passing by quickly. It was the first time I did this all by myself, without my dad behind me holding onto the seat to balance the bike. For the first time in my life I felt independent and truly FREE, you know?

Remember, delivery is key. Speak slowly and enunciate every word while maintaining EC. Add pauses for suspense and stuff. Throw in Self Points where necessary.

During and after the routine you should be noticing more of those "kiss me" cues. Look for it in her eyes!

Additional notes: this routine might not work for you if you aren't Chief.

true, true lol

Well, if you approached her using something she was wearing as an excuse you use that in your close, eg. "I gotta see if you dress this snazzy all the time, I'm gonna be in town with a few friends on tuesday so come down with us and bring some people, it'll be an adventure".

As for plans, maybe she was doing some shopping. Tell her you wanna see what she picked out, and close. If, during your conversation, you've discovered that you both enjoy paragliding or riding elephants or whatever, tell her you should do it some time and tell her when you're next planning to... and bring her along. I don't wanna go into too much detail or give a long list of examples, but this should give you some ideas.