If you’re a man and believe all women you interact with are sweet delicate flowers who only have your best interest at heart…..Then I want you to Stop reading right now and Click the little X on your browser window.

If you are the writer of post that title: “Friend Zone, How do I get out the Friend Zone, Got LJBF, I like a girl but don’t know how to get sexual, Girl wont let me have sex but we’ve kissed only, Girl doesn’t want to ruin our friendship.
You get my point then this is for you

The way you think now is… You Hope if you act a certain way that’s pleasing to her she’ll reciprocate your same feelings

For this Example: Girl you want to Fuck

Reo style (Case A)
5-10 Minutes in
Reo: I’m not interested in just being friends, so next time we hang out I’m trying to see how I’m going unbutton those jeans and when we’re going to make this happen

Girl: what kind a girl do you take me for

Reo: I hope to God you’re an intelligent one

Girl: What? Well I’m not down with that I’m not a slut I don’t fuck guys on the first date I make men work for this

Reo: I never said I was taking you on date to begin with but you can come to my place

Girl: To hell with you this conversation is over (walks away)


Time wasted: 5 -10 mins, money $0

Your style(Case B)
Your style making every attempt to avoid rejection and not sound too forward
40-60 minutes in

You: Why don’t we get together for coffee sometime
Girl: Sure that’ll be cool
You: Ok next Thursday
Girl: Fine

Jump to next Thursday
You have you coffee share a fun convo

Girl: thanks for the coffee it was fun
You: (say something stupidly C&F)
You drive her home go for the kiss she stops you
Girl: wait you’re moving a little too fast there sailor
You: Oh ok I’ll take my time with you haha, Well do you want to hang out next week there’s a circus next Saturday
Girl: Wow!!! You mean that one everyone talking about?
You: yeah I got us 2 tickets
Girl: yeah sounds like fun call me

Fast forward to next week after circus

Girl: Wow that was the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen
You: Yeah it was want to come over my place:
Girl: I would but…….. I’m kind of tired it’s late
You: You look really good in his light (move in for the kiss)
Girl: aww your so sweet but you need to slow your roll “chuckles hehe” (she hugs you only) Ok good night.

Fast forward to next week Saturday
You call her

You: want to go see a movie tonight
Girl: yeah!!
You: Cool I’ll come pick you up in 2 hours

After the movie driving her home
Girl: that movie was so freaking awesome

(Finally you get your wits up)
You: yeah it was, Look!….Girl, I’m really attracted to you and all I can think about is kissing you right now, I think we’re great together,
Girl: Aww well honestly and truly I think we’re better off just being friends I like hanging out with you though your so funny we can still do things together.
You: Look I’m tired of the games I like you as more than just friends
Girl: well I’m sorry that’s all we can be I just don’t see you that way

It’s not over yet….Now out comes your inner Psycho (or your true self)

You: You fucking Bitch!!! I wasted all this time and money on you, I just wanted fuck you from the start
Girl: Ok Calm down
You: (You Pound your fists on your dash board) NO all you fucking bitches are just alike you played me like a fucking chump
Girl: Ok I’m leaving (she gets out the car you chase after her)
You: NO you bitch this isnt’ over yet I didn’t even get a fucking kiss or nothing
Girl: (reaching for her can of mace)Leave me alone or I’m calling the police you psycho!!
You: Fuck you you stupid bitch!!! (You leave before you get arrested)

Time wasted: nearly a month, money at least $200


I know I much rather be me in Case A


Case A- oh well I didn’t get to have sex with that fine girl but hey I’ll get over it 15-30mins later. But at least I was straight forward with what I wanted and I know she was all about playing games up front.

Case B- you’ve developed strong hatred towards women, spent your hard earned money, and still left wondering why being pleasing and trying to avoid rejection from the woman didn’t work. You got played by the girl because you allowed it you allowed her to give you the false belief that you had a chance and fell for it. No one to blame but YOURSELF. For not being upfront with your true intentions and getting yourself into the friend zone in the first place, sure you let her know what you wanted at the end but it was from a place of anger, too late, changed nothing and just made her realize what a complete jerk you truly are

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here here!, and classic psycho bit, made me laugh sooo hard!

good post reo

~sierra~

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Thanks now if you'd give it a rating I'd really appreciate it

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makes a lot of sense, thanks! u got my rating

Thank you I appreciate it



To the readers of this post please rate and comment

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Yeah, you've got to love cost-benefit analyses applied to pick-up! That scenario B hit a little close to home though (not necessarily the verbal freakouts, but definitely what's gone through my mind from time to time)!

The A way is definetly the way to go! Damn that wasted money. And I blame not ourselfs but HB6+ not wanting nice guys and playing with them. Hell they know we only want one thing, geez!

Lucky I've grown to be more ass than nice.

Jimothy style (Case C)
0-1 minute in

Jimothy: "Hey does this rag smell like Chloroform to you?"

ok... Oh ok, now I get it, you wanna be taken seriously...

That's one of the reasons I wrote this things like that happen everyday.
Not necessarily to that extreme.

Whether you have a Girl, who's a friend, you really like but are too afraid to make move on. Then when you finally do let them know you like them as more than friend, they'll either flat out tell you No they're not interested. OR the biggest lie they give you --the run around like they could eventually see you as a potential boyfriend but they're not sure yet and you agree to their terms and play the waiting game.....thats when you completely fell for the trap.

Continuing to hang around a girl your sexually interested in who won't return your same interest is nothing but trouble. The friendship becomes 100% fake.

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Ok, first off I'd like to see this seems unclear overall. Where is the attraction build up? You are in the friends zone because you have too much comfort compared to attraction. Am I just to assume while on these dates attraction is being built? Also, the time bridges are ridiculously large if you are trying to build attraction that has the quality to get out of the friends zone. One date a week? I guarantee she would flake the second date if she is going to wait 7 days, unless you are also gaming her over the phone between these dates. Am I too assume the gaming on the phone as well? Where is the kino escalation? Why not instead of going for a kiss everytime its time to say goodbye but gradually increase to that kiss? Everytime you try to kiss, she obviously knows its a big deal to you since you alredy spilled your guts about how much you care/like her, a DLV in its self, and she is going to be more than ready to defend it.

Case A. OK this was great. depends on what scenario. this type of scenario was defiantly mall/coffee place situation. If it was club/party scenario i would give a little more time before saying that. But you should let the girl know what are your intentions in the first 30 mins. I am a fan of direct game, the scenario B is complete bs i know mystery and other people teach that, too much wasted time.

Great post

Indirect game is a waste of time, only good when you trying to pick up girl with obstacles.

Case A sounds like a guy who already has a hatred for women. . . and clearly, women can sense this. Where's the part where you actually get laid?

Go with Case A and the results are pretty much predictable every time. Not sure why all of you are so giddy over failure.

If you want to pull the direct game, why not do it with a little charm and strategy? Even "failure" is more fun when it's done with a bit of class.

You know I could've put all the little details with the phone calls and kino escalation but then you would have fell asleep reading.
Ask yourself this question is there a girl right now or in your past you were interested in but didn't tell her for fear you'd lose her?
Or when you did finally tell her she didn't return the same feelings and still you still hung around her hoping that if you acted a certain way she'd eventually come to you?

The girl was never interested in the guy romantically but she didn't mind being entertained by him, he was worried about offending her by being too forward, in the end he was finally his real self and let her know what he really wanted it was pointless then she rejected him he became angry, frustrated, temporary insanity, acted out rage and nearly harmed the girl
Ah Kasabi I appreciate your honest opinion of my post. Allow me to enlighten you

walking up to a woman and saying i want to f*** you is direct
and beyond stupid of course that won't work notice I said 5 to 10 mins in...
during that intial time I'm qualifying her finding out if she's got 3 kids at home, a psycho, if she works for a living, is she college educated etc.....and No i dont ask those questions like an interview (although that is fun at times)
I've had girls tell me the love my forwardness because they dont like nice guys, If i approached like you indirect and happy skipping and jumping i wouldnt have got that HB9 the same one you were trying psyhce yourself up to approach all night went all C&F and ran a million routines on and at the end of the night she said LJBF. Maybe the i would have got an insecure Ugly girl by doing it that way but I like to aim high.

and the point wasn't whether or not i got laid. The point is I acted how I really wanted to act, there was nothing fake about my true intent. I wasn't talking the girl like a mad man in Case B when it didnt work out, I was honest she was honest how can I be mad at the women.....
I focus on anger prevention........ppl like Case B lead down a path of dissappoint and won't correct it.

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Reo,

Sounds like you've been doing this for a bit but I'm floored that you still take what girls SAY literally. So if she says she won't fuck you (And you DREW this answer out of her buy treating her like a slut), you walk off? What kind of game is this? I love the direct game. You can play direct and raise your success rate if you'd just realize that women simply do not say what they mean. They say they're going out for groceries and come back with ear rings. They say they hate _____ and when they see _____, they hug, laugh, and kiss. If you realize this, you'd have cut this off and shifted the direction of your conversation in your example A. . . and scored.

And if you understand that women think this way, you can turn it around and use it on them. I told a particular girl that I'd fuck her only after the 3rd date . . . How many dates do you think it took me to get into her pants? See, the goal is not always the same as the strategy and execution. And it wasn't a date. She came over to watch a movie. She knew she wasn't going to watch movies and we didn't watch any movies. She came ready to fuck but she asked over the phone, we only spoke about which movies we'd watch.

I mean . . . would you actually have told this girl, "No, no movies. You come over and I'm going to fuck you? Tell me yes or no?" Why bother? You know, she knows, her roommates know, everybody knows that she's planning to have sex with you. Why the NEED for verbal confirmation?

A direct game doesn't mean you have to be "literally direct". Your game sounds like the way guys like to communicate to each other in the locker room or the board room. "Dude, we're going with my play!" "No, we're going with another play!" "Well, let's all agree right now . . on 3!"

Anyhow, if this is working for you and you're having fun with it, congrats but I don't like to converse with women as if I'm leading a sales proposal.

By the way if you think your B example is the way indirect game works, you needed somebody to take you under his wing and show you around. Your B has NOTHING to do with the indirect game as "indirect" is the term used for the OPEN . . . that's it. Directly after opening, if you're not shifting and escalating into sexual topics and drawing positive responses, you would be instead be "AFC'ing" the game wouldn't you? I know what you're getting at but there are many more wrinkles to human interaction than your 2 examples. A being "direct verbal lecturing" vs. B = "Total utter idiocy".