How do i get out of the friends zone with this girl I really like?

sup im shred, ive never gotten out of the friends zone but plenty of people have given me advice. dont talk to her for a few days. then when she talks to you be almost a different person. be the cool guy she hasnt seen before. get her to hang out with you "im going wherever on whatever night, wondered if you wanted to join me" if she says yeh, do the flaking thing "well whats the likeliness out of 10 your gonna flake, cos its a pet peeve of mine people who flake" if she says, well 3? youre just like "well nah i dont think so, i jut hate people who flake lets not even bother" so shell be like no ill come definitely. it worked for me and im pretty bad at this stuff. then when your out, get a bit of kino in there. i dont think you should try for a kiss close yet, but optimism is a key. hang out a few times and then kiss close her. also let her know how many other girls your hanging out with
your friend

Shred

good luck, dont hesitate to pm me if you want to chat

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"I learnt my passion in the good old fashoned school of lover boy!"

first you need to ask yourself whether hooking up with this girl is worth risking your friendship...

if you still want to game her, freeze her out for at least 2 weeks. if you know each other quite well then i'd suggest freezing her out for a month or so, sometimes you might even need to make it 2-3 months if you've known each other over a year or 2...
after that, you come back as the high value and highly sociable guy with lots of girls after you. change your appearance slightly (very slight - girls notice these things easily and quickly)

when contacting her it should go something like this...
while you're out somewhere with girls (its important that she can hear the girls voices in the background) call her:
PUA: hey, i'm at X. pull in.
HB: i cant, i'm busy / ok, be there soon
PUA: liar. / ok. cheers.
HB: blah blah not lying, really busy, maybe some other time / cheers

neg her a bit, tease her and run kino. it's important to note that you already have comfort with this girl (you are her friend after all...) so you really need to dial down the comfort (by pushing a bit) and work on attraction (by teasing and running DHV routines)

In all honesty it's best to move on. Why? 2 reasons. for one, moving on will save you loads of heartache, money and time. And the 2nd reason, this is the best chance for you to date her. You heard me right, moveing on and seeing other women is your best shot to ever date your friend. Let me explain.
In movies and stuff we always see the "nice guy" thats in love with his friend end up with a happy ending. He is the shoulder to cry on, buys gifts and is really nice to her, attending to her every need. But in real life it's not that why, just like in real life james bond most likely would not have survived all his crazy attempts in flying his austin martin over bad guys shooting at him. Sorry to tell you, chick flicks are lies. So how would moving on help my chances with her you ask. Well for one, think about this, your friend all of a sudden ignores you and talk to other people. wouldn't you be curious about why, and maybe a little bit jealous of the other people your friend is now hanging out with. The same can work for her. Start seeing other women and ignoring her a little and she may become jealous and finally see what she is missing. Seeing you with other women will make her understand that she missed out and realize she needs you more then you need her.
hope this helped.

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See but the bad thing is that this girl and I work toguether and have the same days off? so how do I avoid her?

you don't have to avoid her physically. just ingore her and find other things to keep you busy.

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and thats going to make her turn around. See she is weird, she says she is confused but i mke her feel happy and special and she does not want me to stop doing that. I asked her why she wouldnt want some one like that in their life and she replied " who wouldnt". the other day I was drunk and I called her and she thought I was going to be the same Nice Guy. and she got a surprize and its almost as if she liked me being a dick and telling her that im not just gooing to be around when it was convenient for her.

yeah, thats something i forgot to mention... moving on and gaming other girls.

in all honesty, the chances of you getting out of the friendzone is slim, especially if you've been there for a while. it takes time and skill. a lot of skill.

if you're really into this girl, find other ways to keep yourself busy so that she stays off your mind. you never get the one you chase.

You know what; I would go out and give you loads of advice - but let me literally demonstrate the effectiveness of the freeze out with a short, few word story of my own.


I had one-itis. Bad. I was like - in love with this girl, but we were good friends. Pining over her for 2 years or so? Yes. As AFC as it comes. We spoke everyday on msn, I used to talk to her in school but had huuuge confidence issues talking to her and just used to blush, chat shit and the such. It was awful.

One day, I wanted to turn my life around, my shy ways and anxiety was taking over my life. This was before I even came to this forum or heard of PUA (I'm here to pass on info and tighten my already existing natural game, which I developed in this period.)

I tried to make radical changes in my life, and slowly did my own created social excercises to improve my confidence. One of the main things I did? I totally froze her out. I made a stonewall decision to not talk to her anymore; I was socially inept around her and could never get with her? And she was linked to my previous anxiety...so why go back there? If I want to be a new guy - I need to cut my ties with everything that brought me down.

A few months passed pretty much, we said Hi now and again, but I froze her out. A few times she asked If she'd done something. I said no, and made small talk...but didnt really chat. Heres the first interesting thing; I actually lost interest in her. I actually became less attracted after I dropped the infatuation.

My life was on the up; I became hugely sociable through my own self-help, putting myself out there and practicing (one day I plan on teaching what I did. I'm proud of my achievements to this day.)

I was going out. To parties and the such. I was getting to the stage where people I didnt know (or at least remember lol) would come and chat to me because I'm 'its that guy!!'

After a while, (8 months to year) one day we chatted a bit on msn. She said she'd missed talking to me, and flirted with me slightly. I just laughed it off.

Bumped into her one day, and again, had a long conversation. My fear was gone and I chatted to her, flirted made jokes, hugged her and made my way.

We then chatted on msn...and something happened. IOI's...flirting up a notch. I was like..."what?!". This girl I'd pined over for so long and given up because it would never happen, was sending IOI's, and not treating me like a puppy dog friend. This maybe the answer or destination your waiting for...but here comes what I think is the better lesson.

I didnt follow up these IOI's. I flirted, but I just remained a distant friend. Why? This new guy could get others. I didnt want her anymore...I'd work so hard to get away from the oneitis anxiety...why would I go back to something that was linked to that past life? I didn't need it. There was plenty of girls out there. Fall off the horse? Theres a billion more.

Thats what I think the true aim should be. The freezeout of that oneitis girl could be the start to pave you on to greater things.

If your on the friendzone...move on. Simple as.

Hopefully my story more than helps with your problem, and anyone else reading. Feel free to link.

Riot!

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Using situational openers?
Throwing yourself in?
Able to flow conversationally from every good or bad comment they make?
That's the way its done.
The only game is natural game.

I get what youre saying but I really want to give it another chance...This only hapened tuesday so I havent been in the friend zone for that long. She was giving me good signs but i was igonorant of them until I found this site. Then anxiety took ver me and I began to be too pushy. I even kissed her and she didnt mind but like I said i got too deperate. I just want to know if it is reversable?

Invite her over to your house just for a relaxed environment. Set a time restraint. when shes over watch a movie or something casual like that
don't make it a date. When she's over go for lots of kino, because friends don't touch like that

If any body has more suggestions on how to reverse this, please share with me. I really want to try and then if it is still the same outcome, then ill move on. Here is a little bio on me is not that i cant get other girls, ive been palying around for six years now and there are a lot of girls who are hot and and wnat me. But seriously, as gay as this might sound, I really care for this girl and I dont want to call it quits without a good fight.

advice-on-ljbf-vt30606.html - there is better threads - but i gotta dash now and didnt have much time - i explain most of it though

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Dont get yourself in the friend zone in the first place.
You probably wont recover its life move on

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Ok so she invited herself to my house toady. What does this means and what do I do when she gets here. Does this means Im out of the friends zone?