I have seen a lot of posts lately - concerning ''let the game begin'', the pickup artist, and other broadcasts of media will kill our game. Earlier today - radio 1 broadcasted pickup artists. began talking about mystery and ACTUALLY GAVE LINKS ON YOUTUBE, advising that the nerds in england who are unseccessful with women should check it out. they reffered to area 51 lifestyle, THIS FORUM, but mainly about mystery. Is this the end of pickup as we know it? or will this just seperate the wanna bes from the artists?

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I dont like that all that PU stuff is spreading so fast. And not because of the competition, but because more and more women know...

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Oh god, not this topic again. It's alarmist, and new guys are filled with a sense of unnecessary worry when they see threads like this. It doesn't matter how many women know. It wouldn't matter if they all knew and let's be honest, the knowing-about-pua to giving-a-shit-about-it ratio is pretty damn low. Quite frankly I see this as just another excuse not to approach women and it's lame. Even if you come across a woman who knows about the game and readily questions you, you can have a discussion about it and talk about how it helped you. Find out what she thinks about it, have a down to earth conversation and use it to your advantage. Everything is always negative with some of you guys, seriously.

The only people realistically who will be graced with this scenario, I might add, are those who use popular canned material they got online (rather than coming up with their own). That's just a handful of the brand new guys, and if being called out is such a huge worry for them we should be highlighting the importance of using the methods that suit their personalities and coming up with their own material so that everything is congruent. Simple. Shitting ourselves because the game as we know it is coming to an end and making a bunch of threads asking "omg wut r we gonna do women are gonna know we're hitting on them" isn't exactly the kind of attitude we want new guys to see. Last time I checked, women actually enjoyed meeting guys and all this community does is give men the tools to actually meet them when otherwise, they wouldn't know how to present themselves and make a connection. There are a lot of truly amazing people out there and the barriers they create around themselves prevent others from seeing this. Is taking those barriers away a bad thing? Because that's all we're really doing.

Give this a rest, please.

Tsk tsk, V1V. Honestly I expected better from you than to be starting a thread like this. Dalziel...ahem, I mean, Solomon II hit the nail on the head with "Oh god, not this topic again."
Women have known that men have wanted to have sex with them since the beginning of time. Chill out.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Oh wait...it's just an acorn...oops...

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Women instinctively know that there is a 99.99% certainty that you want them anyways, just by approaching- this is especially true if done in a nightclub environment.

ALL guys are pick up artists at the end of the day- its just that some guys have no game, no clue and no tactics to meet, attract or seduce women like we do.

Your problem is simply an imaginary one that is floating around your head and has no real basis in the real world.

The new breed of Pick Up Artists, like Adam Lyons and Gambler not only admit they are PUAs, their girlfriends actively help them out on bootcamps and teaching up and coming students.
So how can you apply this to your own game v m v?

Well naysayers will be naysayers- walk away from an interaction if a girl is being more bitchier than shes worth.

If you have gamed her correctly- Im sure she would love to learn Pick Up herself so she can "reverse engineer" it for her own benefit and understanding.

Most girls have pickup mostly built into them. So they don't really need to be taught it.

It will affect all the people that go up to a woman, and appear as if they are trying to be a pick-up artist - in a way that is not congruent to their personality or body language.

All those who have succeeded in internalizing and do it naturally, will be fine. Your just being your flirty, attractive self. He's not a pickup artist, he's just an attractive guy - right?

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Using situational openers?
Throwing yourself in?
Able to flow conversationally from every good or bad comment they make?
That's the way its done.
The only game is natural game.

It will weed out anyone that hasn't grasped the concepts and is essentially a Mystery or Style clone, which is a great thing in my books. Hopefully if people are using openers and routines from the game they will be shot down, pretty rapidly.

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I know its an over reaction. Just a huge shock hearing of it over here. i always hear of how publicsed it is in the states - and then i hear it on our radio. our biggest radio station in the whole country. it nerves me.

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V1V

You're flipping a shit over nothing. Find a new method or adapt your game away from Mystery's overrated bullshit. Srsly.

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Yes, but only for the major systems like MM CF or SS, which will die out and be replaced by....something better.

I was on a train last Friday from Dublin to Belfast and there were 3 teenie boppers on it dressed like the Village People talking loudly in the lexicon of Mystery Method. They had obviously read the Game and little else. It was clear to everyone who overheard them that they were aspiring PUAs. Most people in the carriage seemed to know what they were on about and there was some sniggering. After the movie of the Game comes out, girls will be able to read these guys like a book. I think it will get to the stage where literally all men in clubs dressed in a peacock style will be identified by women as wannabe PUAs.

This is a good thing, PUAs will be forced to use more direct methods and the whole canon of openers and routines will have to be completely overhauled to stay competitive. Originality will take precedence over established systems so the real losers are the gurus and their slavish followers. The winners are women and original PUAs.

Until you get the inner game you're not going to be real. Once you have the inner game, you're a natural.

The facts remain, women are attracted to a certain type of man. Prewritten scripts and routines exist so that men who aren't this sort can act like they are and get lucky. The good side is the more they act this way, the more they become so.

Evolution as always.

I wont lie.
There will be little good from are game being more publicised, but this was an inevitability. However, I myself would have never knew about the game if it was not for "the pickup artist" so in some respects i cant really complain.

But like any organisation that realise on secrets, letting those secrets out will slow the organisation down, but also it will force new ideas out of us all.

Its like back in the old days, magic was fascinating, then some guy showed all the magicians secrets on TV and the magician trade died down. but shortly after this down time came copperfield, David blain, Darren brown and even Mystery.

So with every "bad" there is a "good" waiting right around the corner... We just can't see it yet.

The game has been around since the dawn of men, we are just disciples of it. Like I read somewhere, women don't even want to know about game, that would suck the fun out of the whole thing.

You guys need to relax, I'm starting to feel that the people that makes this alarmist claims are subconsiously thinking that game equals tricking women.

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