I met this girl who definately likes me. I have been getting lots of positive ioi and ive n-closed. I have a "meeting" soon and I want to k-close but i think she might be reluctant as she has a boyfriend(but a shitty one). Is there anything specific i can do or should i just keep up my game and move on as normal?

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Keep gaming as normal. Don't mention her boyfriend or talk about him at all. If she begins talking about him, try to cut that thread as soon as possible. Don't even talk bad about him because she will start subconsciously defending him and then you'll be shut out.

Just go with the flow. If anything happens, it's because she wants it to happen. You should in no way feel guilt or apprehension with her.

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Wondering . . . what makes a "shitty" boyfriend? He must have certain qualities if he was able to land your target hb. I only bring this up because if you have this "villain" attitude towards the bf, you might throw off some negative vibes.

Anyhow, pretend the guy doesn't exist. If she brings it up, just derail the topic and move onto something else.

kk thanks for the help. I wont feel any guilt. And i guess what would make him a shitty bf is that he cheats on her. thats really all i know about him. i admit that i might not have made a fair judgement, but i dont really care about him ne way or the other in all honesty.

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Shitty boyfriends are hard to compete with...girls flock to them like sheep. If she was dating a 'nice guy', you would have no problem railing her.

In addition to Plethora's great adivce, try coming across like a 'bigger' player/pimp than her boyfriend. This tactic as worked in the past for me, especially with women in relationships, go figure.

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After my first day sarge I told my uncle who's a natural about how she was married and how I felt bad for myself. He told me that a girls bare code of ethics are opposite than ours. Since her husband was out of town most girls would take this as an open field. I'm not sure how right he was as I'm still a noob, but i say go for it. If her boyfriend really is so shit and he still got her shes probably open season. Plus you knowing her boyfriend is so shit tells me you listened to her complain about him which is one of the biggest AFC things you could do. Stay away from these complaints and change the topic(preferably about yourself).

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maybe ask, are you sure you want to do this? or something like that as long as you know she'll say yes

I agree. Make sure this is something you want to do. I myself got involved with a married woman, and after a few weeks it really started messing with me. Guilt set in after awhile and a piece of me really started to dig her more than just ass because we get along so well. I know a boyfriend is different than a husband. Just watch out for yourself is all I'm saying.

Check out Ross Jeffries stuff. He has some good bf destroyers that he likes to use. I would also suggest that you start studying NLP and combining that with romance as chicks tend to dig that, but don't act like you are needy at all as that will only turn her off.

If you have good rapport with her then run some of the patterning techniques that Ross likes to use and while you're at it make sure that you are paying attention to her body language as that is critical.

If you can slip in a few C&F negs while you're at it, then you should be good to go. Try to do it when he is not around though unless you want a fight on your hands and if you can at all help it try to avoid fighting him.

With some girls that can be a turn on, but with most girls it is nothing more than a DLV in their eyes.

It's hard to say as to what you should really do because you are the one there calling the shots. All that anyone here can do is to give you our thoughts and opinions, but ultimately you have to take control and make the decisions for yourself because when you are out in the field almost anything can happen.

kk thanks for the help. i will look that up.

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