amen. every single word.

The existence of the community and the PUA techniques are already spreading faster and wider than is convenient, among guys. like it wasn't bad enough to be potentially surrounded by predator with ur same skills, now u ppl wanna warn the prey?

it's just insane even admitting you know what a PUA is..
if anyone asks, a strawberry is nothing but a kick-ass fruit.. nothing else

I have absolutely no idea why anyone would WANT to tell a chick this. That's like me basically wanting to tell every chick I met that I got a 34 on the ACT.































....and no I didn't get 34 on the ACT, got a 36 instead.

No. Other than explaining the occasional routine I don't see how telling any girl about PU would be benificial. Would she tell you what her and her friends really talk about in the bathroom?

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If PUA is merely a set of styles for approaching women, and is essentially how anyone could act to seduce a woman - then why is everyone afraid of women learning about it?

Is PUA a secret manipulation technique, or improved social skills?

i explained it to my best female friend. she just took it like "ok that's interesting but what's the big deal", it didn't really make a difference. after all, this stuff is just a way of communicating and it shouldn't be such a big deal that we need to keep it a secret

I think the reason why some women flip out is because they don't understand the PUA community, and chances are you explained it in a way that makes it sound manipulative. I have told some of my friends and the first friend I told, did not react like I expected. I in turn have changed HOW i tell people. Don't talk about the lines guys use, the routines they do, and definitely don't mention the rating system. But there are positive aspects that you can highlight. You can talk about how it has made YOU more confident, how it has made YOU more social (not just with women but other aspects of your life). You can tell her how you know when she is attracted to you because of her body language. etc...don't use the terminology or even try and explain the terminology at first. It will be a sensory overload for them because they are going to first try and comprehend this revelation. Highlight how it has made you a better person. If they ask about the other stuff....like if guys do it just to get laid, say that there are some like that but that is not the foundation of the community and not where it is heading. I call it social dynamics, not PUA. Everything in the PUA community is based on natural psychological principles that would exist even if we weren't consciously aware of them.

Let her know that because you understand the social dynamics of attraction and dating, you are more perceptive which lead lead to a better experience for HER! This isn't about lying to her. This is what the community is about...but there are good ways to phrase it, and bad ways to phrase it.

Wow, maybe it's just me, but I haven't had any problem with this. I can even remember a rather direct moment telling a girl I was learning to pick up women, because when I saw a beautiful girl I wanted to meet I wanted to be able to go meet her instead of just walking away. No tactic, just the complete truth as I saw it at that moment. It turned out well.

I guess it's a defining moment in the life of a man to either be comfortable with this or not. Either you think pickup is way of tricking girls into your bed or not. I also don't accept that the goal of pickup is to just bed girls anymore. That frame is what most girls are rejecting, and not the sum total of what pickup is. If that's what your only goal is then maybe I don't want you telling them you're learning to be a PUA either.

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"You're only as young as the women you feel."
"I am the Master of my unspoken words, and the Slave to those words that should have remained unsaid."

I have told several girls whilst in the field and with good results, you just have to know what to say and what not to say and avoid the words pickup artist at all costs, unless you want to spend 5 minutes doing the marie clare comparison/bad people in every community speech.

All in all if I have a LTR /i think I'll have to tell them as I will still be helping guys out on here and learning and field testing material.

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I haven't had bad results, but I try to focus it on "improving myself", "controlling more what happens near me" and, of course "manipulating people", which makes a good conversation after.

Try to explain PUAing as a psychological tool instead of a "let's fuck some girls" tool

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Personally, it's against my own "policy" to share the PUA secrets.
You should never discuss it with a woman.
Word leaks out and you will look bad or fake.
Don't try it!!!!

Don't say anything. I think every human being is a pick-up artist in their own right anyway. Both girls and guys do certain things to procreate right? We just study... and study.... and study. Girls do too. Ever read a cosmo? Don't lie. There are all kinds of articles in there about tricks for getting the perfect guy blah blah. To me there is nothing wrong with what I'm doing because I have honestly grown a lot from the material I have studied. I just don't think I need to disclose it to any girl I'm dating. If both parties are happy why worry about it?

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I think it really comes down to your frame and dominance within the interaction. If you are strong and leading, then you can easily be open about this and it won't affect the situation much; if anything she will be more intrigued and fascinated in you. If you are sub-communicating that you are trying to 'win' her and buying into her frame by impressing her with tricks or routines, then it most likely will have negative results.

Let's use Hypnotica as an example. He has a constant harem of 6-12 strippers or seriously good looking women, plus who knows how many on the side, and yet is completely open about everything. He actually sets the frame immediately in the interaction by telling them that he is a professional at 'making women feel good.' His inner game and dominance within the interaction is legendary, and women are even drawn in by his admittance of womanizing.

Like others said, it depends on how you present it. If you were to tell a girl something like "I used an opinion opener so you would talk to me, then I said I had to go soon so you wouldn't worry how long I was there. Also I kept throwing friendly insults to make you like me more, then I told a lot of fake stories about my self that make me seem cooler than I actually am to make you want me. Oh, THEN I used/will use (depending on how deep into the interaction) a bunch of tricks that some guys on the forum came up with that would make you kiss me!" then you will probably crash and burn.

I am open about what I know, but I won't spring it out unless there is a reason. If someone asks 'have you read the Game?' then I find that a perfect opportunity to have a meaningful and deep conversation with a girl. I always look at the positive self improvement side to it, and don't really talk about the bag of tricks so much. I agree much with what Bonita said, there are a lot of negative connotations with being a PUA and the sense of manipulation. If you have a deep understanding of game, and not the superficial overcoat, then it will be natural for you to present the more appeasing, psychological side, instead of being labeled as a manipulative player.

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It's doesn't matter if you tell them or not. I always do and if you are going to keep Enjoying the company of many it is easier this way. I have never had a girl give me shit about pickup although i also don't use canned lines which i believe doesn't portray the real you, it makes you a clone. BE original be Creative and be absolutely charming and the loving comes naturally.

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Short answer: NO!

Long answer: NO, DONT DO IT!!