Pimpin ain't easy...



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 Post subject: Pimpin ain't easy...
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:33 am 
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So over the last two years at college, PUA skills have successfully transformed me into a better person. I don't call myself a complete PUA yet, and don't think I ever will because I believe there is always room for growth. This might become lengthy...

My problem: Basically, when I get close to girls, I think they are a little hesitant and I don't know why or how...

I don't mean to be boastful, rather I'm looking for advice. I remember reading that it is a type of emotional burnout for women who feel "Oh, he's too good to be true, so he must not be."

1. I have super DHV in that I'm a DJ, a personal trainer, know the owners of the bars and clubs nearby (drink for free, VIP, line cuts, etc.).

2. The deans of my college all know me on a first name basis and often interrupt just to say "Hey"at University sponsored events. There was even a point at our homecoming tailgate where my adviser came up to me with a beer and said, "Dude, how is it that every time I see you, you got a group of 5 girls around you?!"

3. I'm in a fraternity.

4. I'm Pre-med with a Women's Studies minor, volunteer with sick children at the hospital, and work with my local blood donation services.

4. I like to stay in shape, I can dance, I take yoga classes, and just like to be a well-rounded cultured person (everything that PUA skills teach). The list goes on.

I can open, I don't have AA, and I can close, etc. And, I haven't noticed any negative change or flaw in my game at this point. Recently though however, girls that I meet will call me out on positive things nonchalantly and randomly.

My roommate and I were hanging out with a 3 HB9s the other day (2 were my sister's friends, pivoting ME without even knowing, extreme DHV), and my target noticed my surround sound and candles (IN MY DORM ROOM) and she goes, "Wow, you totally think you're a pimp!" My roommate just laughed it off (because he knows the girls I bring back, and he knows I am a very genuine person when it comes to women [kind, sweethearted, etc.]).

This isn't the first time I was called out like this (nonchalantly), and I usually handle the situation with a thank-you and some cocky/funny topped by a modest comment such as, "Hey candles that smell like cookies are awesome. Don't Hate!"

My problem is, days later, girls will be cold. Girls who show so much interest, are hesitant to text me back. They are sometimes completely unresponsive when I am just being the fun guy they met a bit ago.

It's happened with a serious amount of HBs lately and I can't pinpoint myself out of the rut...ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME...Thanks a lot in advance!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:43 am 
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Sorry, one more thing - The reasons I have been able to come up with are as follows (in no particular order):

1. These girls might be getting out of LTRs and so I'm being seen as a "backburner" for when they want a new LTR, so they don't fool around.

2. These girls might be too scared for their own good to get too close to me because I'm a "charmer".

3. These girls might be too scared to get close to me because I do come across as genuine, but they feel as if they might "hurt me" in the casual dating process.

4. These girls might be subconsciously racist (I'm middle eastern, fair, tan-skinned), although this is very unlikely because of my social proof.

5. These girls really weren't as attracted as I thought they originally were.

6. These girls get too attracted too quick and pull back as a defense mechanism.

There are more that aren't coming to me now, but I will keep you all updated in my journey of hopeful progress. Again, any advice would really help out...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:37 pm 
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Right, this is actually a good and unusual question.
If you are as brilliant as you make out and are getting all this instant attraction the most likly cause of this pull back is they dont feel they deserve it.

This might sound odd, but think of it this way. How many guys do you know who wont say hi to an HB9-10 because they think "oh she'll never go for me"? Ok partly its AA but they are protecting themselves from rejection, after all, why would a HB 10 go for them?
Now to get a guy to do that is all to do with inner game, however, u cant spend months giving a girl confidence and lots (especially college age) wont be high on confidence.

So how to prevent:
QUALIFY THEM. Yes, it really is that simple. You have to make them give you reason why they deserve you.
Obviously you dont (normally) simply say "gimmy 3 reasons why u deserve me". Be subtle. Say they mention they do a sport or something, tell them you really like the fact their into sports.
They dance, tell them you think thats really impressive.

The M3 model is useful to understand here,
A1 is female to male interest (you have that)
A2 is male to female interest - this is the problem.
Although u make it obvious you like her she will either think your a player, because if you that amazing why would u genuinly like her? or if you dont give her enough interest she'll think you are to good for her.

The key thing is, dont lower your value to make her closer to you, raise her's.

Madals

p.s. this is only a probable cause of your problem from what you have said, it could be something to do with you giving to much attention to soon.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:54 pm 
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I think you are exactly right, I've always had qualification issues to work on. I have never really been able to shift so readily and the other day one of my natural friends pointed it out to me.

Thank you for the great advice based upon the details of my situation because I think many people here have a similar problem/question.

Can it perhaps be my micro-calibration telling me not to show interest yet, and I end up failing to qualify the girl and make her feel worthy and deserving? Does anyone know of some good means/routines to phase shift into qualification?


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