In the past 2 days Ive done 2 approaches and I go for the direct approach method. Right now Im only trying to get over my AA so its the approach that counts as a success for me...not so much the results.

I usually go with "Hi i saw you sitting and i wanted to come meet you" then i proceed by asking her her name and i ask her friend her name as well out of politeness...

the problem is my voice starts cracking and coming out SO weird which it doesnt do for ANY other circumstance in my life! i need to relax but i cant...

i ended up ejecting saying 'nice meeting u guys' and rushing the hell away from them..

i need help

I wouldn't start out with direct approaches, it may work on the basis you won't get shot down as hard as you will when trying this (especially if your frame is off).

I would start out using different openers and get used to talking with women and generally being out of your comfort zone.

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you're right it's hard as hell...but nobody said this process would be easy

Its good to see you have the drive to get things done but I would at bare minimum split your direct/indirect game 50/50. Could just be because of my preference for indirect game unless it is the right type of girl but I think lots of the subtleties of the game are lost when you use direct.

You should also hunt for some vocal exercises, they will help a lot and maybe check out some of the inner game bits and pieces (if there are none here by morning I will dig you out some, its 4:05am).

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Here is an awesome inner game post;
4-keys-to-overcome-nervousness-with-women-vt15875.html

And here is another good article on vocal exercise;
http://realitymethod.com/2007/02/art-of ... rojection/

Rules of the game is also worth getting a copy of, hope that helps

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1. Get your confidence up. If they were your slaves you wouldn't have any troubles.. which means that your perception of your value is wrong for game-ing.

2. start off by asking direktions from strangers etc. this is a cool and nice way of getting started. you could also initiate a chat via asking directions, THEN go into a routine.

3- Don't think vocal exercises would do, I think it's confidence.. but hell, go on and try it =D

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hmm i think you're right. it is a inner game issue.
and ill try some indirect stuff as well

thanks guys for the replies

just pscyh yourself up, like your in character, your character is a funny, charistmatic, fearless guy, speaks his mind and doesnt care what the response is.

your the FUCKING man!

go git em

One thing I like to do to practice speaking with someone I don't know is ordering food at a restaurant. When the waitress comes to take your order, I ask her what she likes to get. Sometimes she'll blurt something out she really likes, sometimes she asks what you are in the mood for. I try to have two items picked out to choose between, then ask her questions about the food like "What's the sauce like?" or "So you really like this?"(can be serious or joking--you can practice your comfort level this way.)

Of course, servers are trying to please you, so this is just for practice--but it can be fun. Often, the server is an HB too, so that makes even better practice for flirting or a bit of C&F, without having such an investment that you feel like you blew it. As long as you aren't in a big hurry, this is a good way to practice because you can count on the girl to engage you in conversation because she wants a good tip.

-Klats