Any tips for an aspiring PUA who can't walk anymore?



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:34 am 
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Since a car accident nearly 3 years ago I have been unable to walk. Being confined to a wheelchair has destroyed my love/sex life which is what inspired me to try to learn PU techniques in the first place. I haven't been with a woman in 2 years and I routinely get passed over because of the wheelchair. I should add that MY wheelchair is a moving conversation piece because I can stand up in it. I'll roll into a bar and get the normal looks or people trying not to look but when I get to the bar and I stand up everyone in the place turns their heads to look awestruck and sometimes comment. Still, I was an physically normal for 26 years and I know that very few people are interested in dating a cripple esp. women. A wheelchair is the ultimate sign of weekness. I'm tall and have always been considered attractive by women and I've managed to retain my youthful physique so that at 29 I don't look a day older than 23 but getting disabled has ruined me. In public at least I smile and try to exude (and approach with) confidence but I continue to fail. Does anyone have any tips, maybe something they have seen other pua's who are disabled do or something I haven't thought of or missing completely? I could really use the help fellas. Thanks

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Sounds like you are of the belief that your wheelchair and your physical condition are dissabling you. That's the first thing you need to change. You need to show them that you aren't any different from them and that you're just as amazing, if not more so, than every other guy in the room. I know from experience in dealing with people in wheelchairs, that with a positive attitude, a great personality and not being concerned about the fact that they are in a chair, they end up impressing everyone around them and winning over the ladies.

Although my condition isn't quite the same as yours, when girls find out that I'm diabetic, 99% of the time they end up acting like I'm something different and not gonna be easy to be with. I just show them that nothing stops me, I can do pretty much everything anyone else can (as can you for the most part, if any of the people I've known are any indication) and they end up seeing me as different, but BETTER than other guys, because I don't let my condition get in the way.

You may be saying that I don't understand and that I have it easy, but seriously, I know you can do it. I've known a lot of people in wheelchairs and all the positive outgoing ones were killer with girls. There's a midget in a wheelchair that has been on David DeAngelo's stuff because he's so good with women. You didn't mention being a midget, so sounds like you're already a step ahead!

Just remember, positive, fun, outgoing and nothing gets in your way!

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I agree with Rye Lee. Don't even think about being crippled. YOU ARE A PUA! You have to act like you are the life of the party and everyone wants to be around you. And they will.

I hear and read stories all the time about people using their handicap to motivate them to be even better then when they were normal. Look at how many people do triathlons in wheelchairs. People like that are inspiring. You are like that as a PUA.

Go make the news and join a marathon. That will be your street cred. Hell, you will be a celeb after that. there's all the confidence you need right there.

*disclaimer- see your doctor before taking my advice lol.

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wheelchair = super peacocking THRONE that guys just cant AMOG u about


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If you have amazing inner game and totally believe that the wheelchair won't stop you they will like totally forget that you are in a wheelchair and please post on how it goes


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This is really helpful guys, I think I am having a few weeks in a chair later in the year (double knee surgery). I figured I would have to switch off my game but this is cool cheers.


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Well, as some of you know i have a disaability aswell, i sometimes use a wheelchair but normally just crutches or nothing. Its actually an advantage is many ways.
I will summerise some of the advantages and if you want to know more feel free to PM me.
- you come in under the radar, they wont blow you out (because ur in a wheelchair, imagine what their friends would think :O) this means u will ALWAYS get to talk.
- AMOG will never try to push you out at the start (taking the piss outta some1 in a wheelchair isnt socially acceptable, unless ur friends ofc) so again, advantage and u can easily AMOG them..
- strong inner game shows u can deal with the sort of problem most men cant imagine... a shit day at work is what most men have to complain to their girls about, not walking again and dealing with it is a far greater show of strength.
- you get attention. Now this is an odd one to think about, since normally it wont be conventionally good attention. However, its how you use it. Its "natural" peacocking.
- social proof goes through the roof, if u have a group of men following you, HB's on ur arm everyone in the room will be thinking "WTF has that guy got that makes him so important" (this is positive use of the attention)

I could go on, but feel free to PM.
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Well, as some of you know i have a disaability aswell, i sometimes use a wheelchair but normally just crutches or nothing. Its actually an advantage is many ways.
I will summerise some of the advantages and if you want to know more feel free to PM me.
- you come in under the radar, they wont blow you out (because ur in a wheelchair, imagine what their friends would think :O) this means u will ALWAYS get to talk.
- AMOG will never try to push you out at the start (taking the piss outta some1 in a wheelchair isnt socially acceptable, unless ur friends ofc) so again, advantage and u can easily AMOG them..
- strong inner game shows u can deal with the sort of problem most men cant imagine... a shit day at work is what most men have to complain to their girls about, not walking again and dealing with it is a far greater show of strength.
- you get attention. Now this is an odd one to think about, since normally it wont be conventionally good attention. However, its how you use it. Its "natural" peacocking.
- social proof goes through the roof, if u have a group of men following you, HB's on ur arm everyone in the room will be thinking "WTF has that guy got that makes him so important" (this is positive use of the attention)

I could go on, but feel free to PM.
Madals
Great points Madals....I agree with the other guys about the inner game...but your explaination offers a lot more practical advantages.


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Thank god someone with some decent experience in this area happened by! You're my hero Madals! :wink:

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Thank god someone with some decent experience in this area happened by! You're my hero Madals! :wink:
Please, it will all go to my head :oops:
Seriously though, its hard to make blanket SPAM on this sort of thing. There are things you can tell fat people, tall people short people etc but disability is a lot more rare and normally a lot harder to change.

I honestly think one of the biggest problems is venues. If u cant manage stairs at all most clubs will be shit. They have stairs everywhere and getting round it hard enough of u can walk... but again, can easily get round that (my tactic is at partys etc forget the whole dancefloor thing. Walk in, open a set, get some seats and u'll pull just with social proof and trips to the bar)

I also cannot emphasise enough how important social proof is, in my opinion. Many people hold beleifs that people with disabilitys (anything that makes the stand out physcially) that they also have a mental disability. This is unfortunatly a down side when walking alone since people will be uncomfortable if you talk to them (they will see you as clingy/needy). Unfortunatly, without exposing me to the global population of women, most people will think this. Like i said earlier being with people (especially leading people or showing dominance in the group) will confuse and make people curious on WHY you are getting all these people. Curiosity is just attraction without a sexual spark, all u have to do is add that spark and bang, well done :)

Again, feel free to ask me more in PM if u dont want to spread it across the forum or just post here. Happy to help :)
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I've known a few disabled people, but not many. But the main thing that makes them advantaged in social situations is the ability to make fun of themselves, and not in a way that draws pity.

So my advice is to come up with some jokes about your situation, and get in the habit of using them at the right time. Let's say you roll up to the bar and then the chair stands you up; the girl next to you is gonna look over and that's when you say something like, "You think my chair is cool, wait 'till you see what by bed can do!" (okay, not the best example, but you get the point).

I knew a blind guy in college, and he did well with the girls because of his positive attitude towards his situation. I remember at parties, people would offer him a beer, and he'd say something like "No thanks man, I gotta drive home later!" And then, while holding his cane, he'd try to convince people that he had a car. It was funny and he made himself the life of the party.

Offer girls a ride on your lap, but at a price. Turn your chair into a prop and go from there. If people sense that the chair doesn't bother you one bit, then it won't bother them.

Anyone else think of some jokes he can make?

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