I promised myself I would focus on my studies, but its been difficult lol, a teacher cancelled class Tuesday @3pm, so I had 3 hours free in my college. I couldn't resist no longer, I was approaching females this time just saying hello, and hi's to any cute female I seen, but with a little twist.

Me:Hi

Her:Hi (if she keeps walking, I kept walking):?

Now normally they all stopped like it was programmed for them to stop and listen to a conversation. I did a cocky funny approach today if they stopped, and I would love for people to PIMP THIS CF HELLO OPENER. .

Me:Why did you stop? What are you expecting a conversation? I only known you for 5 seconds and now you are trying to get me into a boring conversation.

Okay this was what I would say from the top of my head each time a girl stopped from me saying Hi, or Hello. The responses were funny because some of them actually called me crazy and I thanked them . The other females were more cool about it because then they would say, "Ya normally when somebody says hi they got something else to say". I told them "Okay then, if thats what you want lets talk about Politics and other boring subjects because I don't know you well enough to speak with a complete stranger you could probably be some psycho for all I know". Stupid shit like that I would reply with.

I number closed only 3 girls (I'd say they were around 6-7 rating), out 14 approaches. I did other routines also with the CF Hello opener. I think somebody else here on this forum could improve this, or probably direct me to a similar topic, because I have only been a member since November. I don't think this opener works too well with HB9'S, AND 10'S lol I got blown away by the prettier girls responses, I believe two called me an asshole, and one just didn't even respond back and walked away. Other than that the other females were just on their way or in a hurry rushing late to class. I was with my bros while doing all these approaches, I'm thinking my chances would of been higher if I didn't have HAWKS over my shoulders lol. All in all, I would love for people to PIMP THIS CF HELLO OPENER.

Ill give it a try but its mostly for 6-7 chix

I have to say i'm not a believer in the initial cocky openers. As you say you don't know them, but remember, the first sentence is your first impression besides your appearance, and if you aren't much of a looker it can dettract straight away, leaving you in an awkward position with a very high probability of rejection.

Openers work mostly for me because they have aspects of what you have to offer, be it charm, whit or whatever. if you have a good opener it should work on, out of 14 approaches, atleast 9 or 10! ATLEAST...and the prettier girls, as it is said are normally the most insecure ones! So a cocky and slightly arrogant approach with HB9/10 is the wrong way to go about it...In essence, cockiness/negging should only take place with the much prettier girls and only maybe 3 negs at most!...the immediate stage should help her to feel more comfortable in your company! Obviously, why else?the point is to get them interested. So walking past a girl, "hi" is the obvious thing to do, but the only follow up has to consist of a compliment, especially in every day sarging, even more so when you're in school.

This is my feelings on the topic, i'm not sure if people will agree with me, but every time i've tried it, this information has been correct.

hope this helps

libertine.

Libertine whats Kind of opener do u use for a HB9-HB10??

Im jusst curious cuz i cant come up with a general opener

In terms of openers, i have to be honest, the "600 best openers" i find quite cringe worthy and uneffective. If your initially feeling worried and have the fear of approaching...one of those openers is the worst idea for you!

for me...any opener should begin with a compliment of some sort - applying the situation to the comment. for example the other night at a bar, this hb8 couldn't get the barman's attention, so i looked to her and smiled saying "can you not get him?" and simply helped her...SO simple and obvious and it got us talking.

in your situation, saying hey to girls...the opener i would suggest is, fundamentally, "hey...i don't normally do this, but i need your opinion...i was discussing with my mates about how a guy should approach a girl?? and we argued for ages...so seeing a stunning girl like yourself...i thuoght you could help"...she will obviously say thank you etc, maybe even "well an approach like you just did would be good " which is a great sign, or simply follow up with "whats the 1st thing a guy shud say to you?" so infact, you're including her in your routine, and even letting her tell you wat she wants to hear....which can end with..."right, thank you...so should i like walk away and come back and do all that?or have a seduced you yet ?;)"

i don't know if this would work for all...it depends on how well you can talk, and well, that's my skill in this game.

libertine.

the way i figure, you can't start out with anything normal- like hi, hey, hello or any compliment for that matter. I have found that if the girl is hot they will be approached all the time especially when they are walking in a large group of people- they have no reason to stop. If I am walking by I try to make it quick. a good one is to say something like, "excuse me, I smelt your perfume when you were walking by and it smells familiar- what kind do you wear?" she will probably be a little embarrased because she is wearing so much and secondly she will answer and then bullshit from there. or i say something like hey where'd you get those shoes, my friend "sara" is looking for something like that. I found the opener doesn't matter but just say something where it would be impolite for her not to stop and talk- then work the negs, etc. get the number and leave because she is probably in a hurry.
i try to get the number in this situation in a few minutes by saying, look i gotta get going, but I just had to ask that. Lets continue this conversation later"

hope that helps and makes sense

yopon, and libertine I know what you guys are talking about lol. Libertine I know about the 3 negs to the more attractive females. But bro, i'm not trying to stick to a script. Like you said earlier, this approach I used is not for someone who is Anxious, nervous, or a lil scared. I simply wanted someone to switch my reaction responses, not someone to tell me that I shouldn't say hello. I want to say hello, and hi. I found it fun, I like rejection mate if I get it, I know when to walk away with a smile.

So can someone find some funnier responses I can add to this Hello, Technique . You guys would be surprised how many guys don't talk to the intimidating girls I approach. I speak with urban girls, who are more use to hearing, "Hey yo ma come here with your sweet ass, or Holla at a brother, or Dayum dat ass is fine". What i'm saying is that I know when to use Mystery Method, Juggler material, but I try and mix things up as much as I can. I suggest this as a WARNNING nobody should use this if they don't like being told to go to HELL . Once in a while.

i completely understand what your saying...but my simple opinion is, there are no STANDARD openers, they work on the basis of situation. i.e today, walking towards my house, there was an HB7 walking two dogs, it had potential for an approach, so i thought, okay work in scenario, she's walking two dogs and struggling, simple answer comment on the dogs, so i did, "i can barely handle one dog, let alone two!"..she turned and laughed, and then carried on talking. Not a great example, but simply working on situations.

libertine.

I like it. I reckon you've just got to twist it so that you put her on the spot a little. Maybe throw in a false disqualifer and move quickly into something else. How about.

You: Hi!

Her: (stops) Hi

breif pause...

You: Are you trying to pick me up or something, becuase I'm not that kind of guy.

or:

You: Are you trying to sell me something, because I'll tell you right now that's not going to happen.

or:

You: You're not one of those street preachers are you, because I have to tell you, we don't really have the time here to catalogue all my sins.

Her: No, no, blah, blah, blah - a little flustered and a little off balance.

You then use that moment when she's off balance to move into your next routine and rescue her from her embarasement.

Jacked, I am sorry dude but ugh your opener sucks.

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Ok so I just thought of this - I haven't field tested it yet.

When you see a girl walking past right when she's to the side of you maybe just a little in front of you, just barely tap her on the side of the shoulder (NOT FROM BEHIND!!!) and say "JACKIE!!!"

Then as soon as she turns around make a surprised face and say:

"Oh shit! OMG this is so embarassing, you look just like my friend Jackie!"
She'll laugh and say something like, "oh no, that's funny though!". And you can say something like "wait a minute, you're in my biology class right?" If she is then you can say something like "well tell ya what, I'm Ben. I gotta run to class but If you sit next to me tomorrow you can tell me what your real name is and I'll try not to call you Jackie." She'll probably tell you right then anyway and you can at least establish some kind of familiarity.

If she's not in your class then she'll say something like ... "Nope, not in your bio class." You can reply with. "Well, I'm Ben and whoever the hell you are, quit looking like everyone I know alright?" She should laugh and introduce herself.

In my head this plays out okay. It's C/F but in a way that is not insulting.

Try it out if you want.

Hope it works.

CPT

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Libertine is spot on about the compliment open. I don't care if you're gaming a 10 or a 4. A quick compliment that pertains to the situation is absolutely magical. It stops them. It freezes them. It forces them to say "thank you". Then once your face to face, you can gauge the situation and take this game any where you want.

Guys . . . take a class in creative writing. Join a drama club. Take a class in oral presentation. This blitzing cheese grater openers are making me cringe. Any girl over the age of 22 would do the same.

Ive gota say using something cocky that early into meeting someone never works for someone who is good looking. They look at you like an asshole right from onset.

The compliment thing is pretty straight forward and it works in most areas, generally if you can get her to stop you might as well reward her a bit. Thats how i see it.

If you are going to open with a complement then there are some things you have to be careful about.

1. It must be specific, and original, "I like your shoes" doesn't cut it. If she truly is gorgeous, then she is used to many many guys coming up to her and telling her how pretty she is. And by opening with a complement like that you are leading yourself into 'the next guy' and AFC-dom. Generally try to make it situational and clever.

2. Already establish high value. This can be done with confidence, smile, looks, being seen with other women, looking like you're having a good time... The subtext is that you are having a blast and have your pick of any woman in the room, but you just had to come over and talk to her because of this great thing about her.

3. Be prepared to have something interesting to say and not dwell on her physical appearance. Also, must be equally prepared to hit her with a neg if you do not have her complete attention. Mystery/Style do this really well such as "I like your skirt, I've seen two other girls tonight wearing the exact same one." Or "I like your nails, are they real?" Or "I really like your shoes, they look comfortable." (The last one is my favorite)


Good looking girls get complemented all the time on their appearance and it is generally a better idea to knock them down at first then build them up later. If you can non-verbally establish to her, before she gets a chance to react, that you are a man of higher value then perhaps she will respond favorably. In my opinion complements used early in sets are much more powerful during day game. At night they don't hit very hard or give the girl a reason to want to talk to you.