okay starting off here i'd like to say, i have not had much luck with opnion openers. that doesnt mean i cant do them,

. I cant do opnion openers because it kills my inner game. instead of feeling like the god i do normally I feel like some shitty scum bag that needs excuses to talk to girls!

but here is the great opener from a guy that hates canned and opinion openers.


preparation: two pieces of paper, write down carrot on one, and cucumber on the other.

me:hey, can you do me a favor? or, hey, name a vegetable. (doesn't matter)

Hb: yes. (if she says no she is obiviously not worth your time even if she is a hb20 million.)


PUA: *make sure she is paying attention and can hear you, if she cant you risk ruining the trick* name a vegetable or, quickly quickly (you gotta make sure the answer is rushed if they dont just spit it out)


hb:carrot or cucumber (50/50 chance)

PUA: gives her piece of paper with proper vegetable and walks off.



hb: feels a connection to him because he just read her mind so she goes to him, its especially easy for her to go to him because she has something to say to him also! "how'd you do that"


thus you have isolated. you could even stay with her after your cute little trick but I like walking off; it is truly an alpha maneuver.



I made this up all by myself. what do you guys think? I heard the people always say carrot before, but I made up the cucumber after going around all day and approaching about 20 hb's and the slower thinkers usually named cucumber.

yes this plan needs a contengency plan because they dont ALWAYS name the proper vegatable.

-make fun of them for the veggietable they chose, call em gay as your neg!

any ideas for contengency plans on my opener?

it came to me right after I posted it!

-explain to them your trick (not the pieces of paper that might come off as weird) and tell them they are a statistical anomalously! and ask them what they had for breakfast!

Ok... So you don't feel alpha by using opinion openers because they seem like you are forcing a reason to talk to girls? So instead you bring two sheets of paper around the club and open girls about vegetables? Good plan.
You are contradicting yourself. If you are truly a 'god' and too good for opinion openers, then just go in direct.

The routine is little try hard in my opinion. It seems like a gimmick. If you wrote the names on the palms of your two hands (one on each) and then only turn the palm over for the vegetable she got right then that would be better I think. Also I'm not too convinced that this is a fool-proof plan. I wouldn't think that more than say 60% of people would guess one of those two vegetables.

I would keep playing with the idea and try to make it more interesting than vegetables.

this is kinda direct, I mean we are basically skipping an intro all together and just moving straight into attraction, I'm not sure how much more direct you want. I'm sure as hell am not going to tell an hb10 she looks DAAYYUYUUUM fine today. that's what everyone does.


gimmicks- no ones fuckin complaining about the best friends test, or the cube game, or palm reading or cold reading.... I live for these things! i dont fuckin do them because i think girls will like em, I do em because they are FUN! like my opener here! its fun...no i would not suggest you go sarge a alpha female with this line...go find a party girl!




after reading into it a bit more, you can get 60% if you just ask for a veggietable or you can get 90 percent if you have them do some basic math first eg 9 times 2. and instead of cucumber, appearntly the next best answer is cabbage, but i've been gettin a lot of cucumbers lately, but then again I havnt been asking for them to do math first. hmmmmmmmmmmmm


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... 7.300.html