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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:02 pm 
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I hope my post doesn't come across as arrogant...I really don't want to appear that way.

Anyway, the way I feel about most of what I've read with PUA stuff is that it is built around the presumptions that the girl isn't going to be physically attracted to you before any interaction. For example, if you walk in to a room, a party or whatever, beyond whatever peacocking and body language qualities you may have, the techniques would be designed to make the girl physically (and emotionally) attracted to you.

In my case I find often that I get IOI's, without trying. I wouldn't call myself a vibrantly confident guy either. So again without trying to sound arrogant, I think a lot of girls would find me naturally attractive.

So, taking this in to consideration, are there particular things you think I should read, or particular methods you think I should try? If I *know* a girl is attracted to me, or that there is a good chance she would be, what then?


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Soon after I changed my clothes and focused on making myself look a little better I started having girls give me fuck me eyes while walking down the street. At first I was hella cocky. I would talk to girls think they were totally into me and itd usually start out great. Then I would keep being cocky, end up making the girls feel insecure or angry at how full of myself I was and lose the entire interaction due to this.
Looks can help you, but you must train yourself on being more genuine to girls and not getting to full of yourself. I'd say in general assume attraction, but be the selector. If shes into you just screen her a bit to see if shes the type of person that youd want around you. Reward her for any effort she makes at getting to know you, or any effort she makes in general. If she calls you hot agree and disqualify yourself.

Disqualifying is like this:
Her: wow you are very hot.
You: aww ty I am hot right now, but you should see me in the morning
Her: *giggles and relates* I know I'm the same way (rapport)

one of the best things you can learn as an attractive guy is disqualification like this. It will make that attraction she has for you turn into a more real conversation extremely quickly because it will make you look like a genuine and confident guy that is comfortable even with his faults.

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yep... use the same techniques but be careful about the "cocky" thing.... because for an average guy saying "what, r you shy to speak with such a sexy guy like me?" is funny, but for an attractive guy is too cocky

i'm not Brad Pitt, but since i lost some weight and learnt body language the girls started to get very attracted to me... i find hot girls glancing at me everytime i walk on the street, so, is not a bad thing, you just have to use it as the advantage that it is...

just be funny, tease, and if she is already attracted to you, the better, just jump into comfort building and kino escalation :)


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Reward her for any effort she makes at getting to know you, or any effort she makes in general. If she calls you hot agree and disqualify yourself.

Disqualifying is like this:
Her: wow you are very hot.
You: aww ty I am hot right now, but you should see me in the morning
Her: *giggles and relates* I know I'm the same way (rapport)
I Think This is a bad Idea cus your basically DLVing yourself. Just say thank you, you sound more confident that way.


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Reward her for any effort she makes at getting to know you, or any effort she makes in general. If she calls you hot agree and disqualify yourself.

Disqualifying is like this:
Her: wow you are very hot.
You: aww ty I am hot right now, but you should see me in the morning
Her: *giggles and relates* I know I'm the same way (rapport)
I Think This is a bad Idea cus your basically DLVing yourself. Just say thank you, you sound more confident that way.
I was watching some of the mystery method tape that I dl'ed and Lovedrop did a segment on this. In some small cases, DLV's can be DHV's. This is one of them. Saying things like "I feel fat today" or "you should have seen me this morning" are actually DHV's because you are disqualifying yourself and are comfortable enough not to care what she thinks of you. Obviously do it in a playful way and don't dwell on it, but statements like this make a girl feel more comfortable around you.


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So, taking this in to consideration, are there particular things you think I should read, or particular methods you think I should try? If I *know* a girl is attracted to me, or that there is a good chance she would be, what then?
Don't kid yourself. Your game is played out EXACTLY like anybody else. If you were that hot, you'd already know the difference and there wouldn't be any need to write up this post. Some guys will walk into a club and it's as if somebody just rolled in the chocolate cart. It's ridiculous. They say, "Hi" and it's an opener, routine, close, all in one.

"Knowing" when a girl is attracted to you is an important aspect of the game that you've already figured out. Other than the most monstrously unlikely guys, average guys that are well groomed and flash great smiles will get IOI's all night long. Unfortunately, afc's will talk themselves out of it, "Nah. . . probably not. No, I don't think so so . . ."

So . . . the good news is that you know how to identify soft targets. Just pick out a game.


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Agreeing with Plethora...
It never should seem like a DLV especially when you say something to directly relate to the girl.

I always try to find ways to relate to a girl when talking to her. "oh yeah that reminds me of such and such time that I did that as well"


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disqualifying is counterintuitive yes, and it may seem like a dlv, but it is not. Being genuine like that is a dhv. Girls are very attracted to guys who are comfortable with even their faults. I challenge you to go out and try it, if it doesn't work for you then you don't have to do it anymore. If it does work then you have found a new tool that can help you easily relate to women. You should question everything you read on this board and elswhere. Try things out for yourself and then you will know what is truth and what is bs.

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I feel like because girls find me attractive, (they've told me so) they are almost afraid of the competition and because I do have some game.

The problem is, I feel like they afraid that I'll become interested in a more attractive girl and forget about them(which is totally possible) How do you get around this resistance? It usually comes out after I K-close, they start asking me how I could have any girl here, why did I choose them, you must be a player because I kissed you so soon and then I never get to F-close.


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I feel like because girls find me attractive, (they've told me so) they are almost afraid of the competition and because I do have some game.
If they are seeing that you have game then you aren't making them comfortable. Much game should actually look like no game at all.
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The problem is, I feel like they afraid that I'll become interested in a more attractive girl and forget about them(which is totally possible) How do you get around this resistance? It usually comes out after I K-close, they start asking me how I could have any girl here, why did I choose them, you must be a player because I kissed you so soon and then I never get to F-close.
same thing, you aren't having enough rapport with them before you are doing things with them. They are acting on their attraction towards you, but won't let it go very far because they don't see you showing any interest in them. Have you ever seen a celebrity talk to a girl? They show them a shitload of interest, it almost looks extremely afc, but they are actually making alot of progress with the girl. Why? It's because the girl is so attracted with them that they have to make her aware that shes special in their world and they aren't just going to fuck her over. My suggestion to you is to show more genuine interest. Genuine interest is when she makes an effort you reward her. Really thats the key to being charismatic. Cause others to make an effort and reward them for it. I hope this advice makes sense to you, I sometimes type very quickly.

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It's all a matter of what girls you're talking about...
I can gaurantee you the HB8 + can choose from dozen of men and have no specific reason to be interested in your looks unless you're kind of a brad pitt (which i assume you're not)...

That leaves your game to do the rest of the work 8) 8)

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Looks can help you get some initial attraction and they let you make a few more mistakes.

But on the downside there's a far greater chance of player vibe and LMR for better looking guys.

Stay away from doing a lot of cocky stuff as girls will take it for actual arrogance and get turned off.

You should try to get into qualification as quickly as you can and make sure you give the girl legitimate reasons you like her besides her looks. The better you qualify the better you'll do.

Also make sure you test for attraction by moving and trying to qualify. A lot of good looking guys assume attraction even when they don't have it and then make mistakes by boring the girls or going straight into comfort. Don't assume you have attraction based on your looks.

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Bleh... Here's the deal bud. Women aren't looking for physical attraction. Sure, they experience physical attraction, but their looking for emotional attraction. Let me break down your post for you.
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Anyway, the way I feel about most of what I've read with PUA stuff is that it is built around the presumptions that the girl isn't going to be physically attracted to you before any interaction.
Slightly inaccurate. They may, or may not, be physically attracted to you. In either case, their going to be looking for emotional attraction. Sure, if you've got the physical part going for you, you won't have to try as hard at the emotional part, but it's still gotta be there.
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For example, if you walk in to a room, a party or whatever, beyond whatever peacocking and body language qualities you may have, the techniques would be designed to make the girl physically (and emotionally) attracted to you.
Peacocking, body language, and whatnot, are there to try and bring attention to yourself. Make you stand out. A lot of guys DON'T peacock. I know that may be hard for you to swallow, as Mystery makes it seem essential, but it's really not.
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In my case I find often that I get IOI's, without trying.
Great. Now you just need to work on turning those IOI's into closes. If their there, then pull the trigger :wink:
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So, taking this in to consideration, are there particular things you think I should read, or particular methods you think I should try?
Look around this site. Any of the good material / advice given out here will work no matter if you're good looking or not.
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If I *know* a girl is attracted to me, or that there is a good chance she would be, what then?
Close her. Date her. Feel good about yourself. Whatever you're looking for from the game, you should have achieved it at this point :D

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There is a huge difference between DLVing and being modest. An attractive guy who is modest is even more attractive. You don't have to DLV, just accept the comliment. Too much of a DLV may taken as lack of confidence.


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O I guess you learn something everyday. Its just that Ive always said "thank you", Ive never said anything to show alittle DLV and ive never complimented them back. One of the things im always getting complimented on are my eyes. Can you guys tell me whats something I can say whenever somebody compliments me on my eyes instead of thank you?


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