First post outside the introduction forum, here we go. I've been on campus for about three weeks now and I'm finding the climate difficult to navigate. Frosh week was easy... everyone is trying to meet everyone else, booze is flying around, the parties are crazy etc. Now that things are cooling down and the academics have kicked in, the climate has completely shifted. However, from that first week I've observed some noteworthy lessons. Already two or three guys from my dorm have completely alienated themselves from the potential pool of HB's. They did this by:

(A Over-gaming, they already have a bad rep as being slick and kind of sleazy

(B Not choosing their targets carefully.

I agree that every situation should be looked at as a potential number close or what have you... however: Tutorial or whatever smaller classes you break up into after lecture is a dangerzone! Ask yourself this: Do you really want to sleep with the same girls you have to debate plato with on a weekly basis? Most universities are fairly large, lectures are great, the campus in general is great; but while your opening sets make sure you do your homework and know if the girl is too close to home. This goes doubly four a small campus, these girls talk to each other so there are a litany of social conditions we never have to deal with in a club. It's already been said in this thread: don't shit where you eat.

When having a lecture and I have a girl next to me, I usually go into a routine about something odd about the teacher (like "Have you noticed how he always giggles when he writes formulas?") and make up a background story about it (overly exaggerated, or just funny).

If we're outside of class and we talk about how she hates for instance chemistry, I say tease her about how she actually loves it. How she always sits in the front, giggles like a little girl of every science-joke the professor says and how she always waves her arm and says "Oh, oh!! Pick me!!" every time he asks a question.

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<Facher> Who the fuck drinks alcohol at 2 PM?
<Chief> Oh, you silly non-New Orleans people

This is MONEY Nightfox, I use this same routine in lectures myself. The first time I used it (on a hot blond with HUGE tits) that I had already #-closed, then I k-closed her a few hours later and I f-closed her within a week.
This sounds like a great tease routine, but how exactly do you do it? Do you say "Naah, I bet you actually LOVE it. You look like one of those girls that study really hard and always waves her arm and says "pick me" every time the prof. asks a question" ? Cuz there are some HOT chicks with some serious bitch shields in some of my lectures, I want to try this out on them, I just wanna make sure, is this how you did it?

If you're uncertain about how to do it, just try. It's not worse than crashing and just stacking on with a routine.

I always say it with a smile on my face and half teasing, half serious. Sometimes I even act some of it out (especially the "Pick me! Pick me!"-part and how she looks when she sits in front of the classroom like a lit candle), but I don't do it to an extent that will make me look lame or stupid.

When I say it, I always calibrate by making sure I get a response (if she's not reacting to it, then I cut it out and stack on with something else), but if she giggles, smiles, laughs, starts qualifying or something, I continue by making more and more stuff up about her.

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~ Nightfox ~

<Facher> Who the fuck drinks alcohol at 2 PM?
<Chief> Oh, you silly non-New Orleans people

Just got back from class and I had an epiphany...

I was in the laundry room on campus a few days ago and there was a gorgeous HB8 or so sitting and waiting for her laundry. It's a perfect spot on campus, no need for time restraints and openers come to mind really easily: "Do you have any fabric softener" it doesn't really matter. Over time maybe I can come up with a decent set, nothing field tested save for a few qualifiers and DHV's on the HB last week. We'll see if anything earth shattering happens, until then maybe some of you have some ideas?

For the fabric softener thing, situational openers work best.

Here's one way you could do it.

YOU: hey, got any fabric softener?
Her: yeah, it's right here.
YOU: thanks. Hey, aren't you in Econ 151A? (or whatever class... which has a HB that looks like her)
Her: no...
YOU: wait, are you an Econ major?
Her: No, I'm an Art major (giggles) I would NEVER take econ.
YOU: that's funny... you do know what they say about girls who wear (X item of unusual clothing she's wearing) and go for the art major...
Her: no, what do they say?
YOU: well, they're kinda shady. You can't trust 'em, they're sneaky.
Her: what? I'm not sneaky! OMG you're so mean.

YOU: well I'm definitely not Mister Rogers! Though it's weird, that song REALLY grows on you after you are WAY too old to watch the show!

Her: I used to watch it, I likes the fish but I HATED the castle part where the trolley goes.

YOU: What? That was my favorite part! I can't even talk to you anymore. I mean, who can NOT like the castle, King Friday XIII was one cool dude!

Her: *giggles*

... Transition into DHV, false time constraint, and number close. See if you can get her to talk about what she likes to do.

And thanks NightFox for the tip, you confirmed my hunches that I had.

Happy sarging, and be sure to post your results and all your college methods here!


~HotIce

Opening and talking and everything really seems like pretty standard day sarging tactics, the one sticking point I have is that I wait to long for the number close because I have a hundred classes with the same people. How many classes of talking to a girl can you go through before she puts you in the friend/study partner zone.

I think the key thing with college girls is let them know you are interested as soon as possible and make sure there's no two ways to take it. The girls give out their numbers, facebooks, IMs really easy but you can't always take that as she wants to date you.

Also I"m wondering how you transition from "study partner" to "fuck buddy". If you ask for their number because you think you might need help and then call them the next day asking them out, it might seem weird.

I think my only problem in college game could be opening and maybe transitioning. I ave quite a lot of social proof around my college since I have lots and lots of good friends and I cant go from one class to another without high fiving/handshaking/gangsta handshaking with at least 50 people lol
Now I'm thinking, sould I use a direct opener? I have never ever practiced game before, I've only been in the pua world for maybe 2 months, however I get the basic concepts. I think that using a direct opener would be really risky because if it doesnt work I will probably seem desperate and my reputation in college will be destroyed. Do you guys think an opinion opener is better for college situations?
There is this hb9 (polish) that gives me a lot of EC and she doesnt know more than 3 or 4 people in college, however I've been told she has a 25 year old eastern european tall and big boyfriend, do u guys think its a good target?

After reading this post I have made a small routine mixing up all the openers:

HB9 sitting on her own:
Me: You must be sick of sitting alone here, so you will not mind if I sit here
she: whatever response thats not "no"
Me: You dont seem to have many friends in college (i suppose this is a DLV)... but dont worry, remember in primary school how easy it was to make friends? u just ask randomly to people if they wanted to be your friends. You still remember the drill, right?
I put both of my index fingers pointing at each other and touching untill she "breaks" the "bridge"
HB9: giggles or whatever
Me: High five!
HB9 gives high five
Me: u passed the test, now u r allowed to be seen in college with me
Now I should transition.

What do u guys think? What if when i run the opener she says that i cant sit there? that would really put me off.

Also, a note on international students, I have gone out with a few of them

They are almost always extremely smart, the cream of the crop from their countries. Especially the one's from poorer countries. This gives you numerous cold-reading opportunities and you can make pretty accurate statements about their values. I also find that international students get into more serious relationships than americans. I've still kiss closed them in a few days but you have to act like you are real serious about relationships and talk really romantically.

So for your DHV statements you want to show:
You are not a dumbass
You are looking for a serious relationship(even if you don't care)
You know something about the world and preferably the country they are from(but if not it's at least good to act interested when they tell you)

One question I have for the audience, the international girls want to have serious relationships but then they get all nervous because they are leaving in a year, six months, whatever...this can create some LMR. How to alleviate this?

Chances are she'll let you sit down unless she has a friend sitting next to her or something, then just sit one chair over.

IDK about your whole bridge idea, she might not get that

International girls with BFs are a crap shoot, sometimes they are willing to cheat and sometimes no, sometimes they'll have weird rules like you can kiss but not have sex but I wouldn't let some guy a million miles away scare you off.

If you know she's from poland and you haven't talked to her yet, learn something about poland that most americans don't know and throw it in *boom* instant rapport. you could even just say hello in polish or soemthing stupid like that.

I'm really good with openers, you can do opinion openers but I usually just make a casual observation about her or the situation or whatever like "wow, it's hot in here" like I'm talking to myself. If she says something back then I have an IOI because she's paying attention to what I am saying. You can look at her clothes and ask her something about them like "ok, so you are wearing crocs and a business suit, what's up with that?" Opinion openers are best for moving targets.

It's not really normal... I mean, you could, but I've never met a grad student who was an active member of a fraternity.

Please rate/critique something I'm going to test out this week:

Sit down next to HB8 in class. (I'm a noob, can't jump into the deep end)

Ask, "Hey, do you take good notes?"
- blahblahblah
"Can I borrow them? I missed the last lecture"
(Start copying the last page)
Say something like, "wow, these are terrible. Do you understand this after you write it down?"
-blahblahblah
"When I took calc III, everything the professor said went down in the notes" [is calc III DHV? I figured it is.]
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say something C&F like "this class is just as boring"
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don't really know where to go from there. But I'm working on it.

Nice overneg you got there (notice the sarcastic tone when I said that), take that "these are terrible" off from it and its okay.

"Wow, do you understand this after you write it down too?"

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OKAY GUYS. It's been 3 weeks since my classes started, sarged a bit, hooked up with a hot ex, and along the way I noticed something VERY interesting.

Many of the hottest girls are NOT out in the open - in fact the easiest place to find them is the LIBRARY.

How many of you guys have ideas for library sarging? (I don't care how strange it seems... and yes, talking in low voices is fine...) Because there are some girls I only see in the library, and I want to seduce them, but the fact that libraries are not normally seen as "social" places can either work for or against me.

How do I make it work FOR me?

please keep this thread going, this is exactly what us college guys need. Don't let it die!

Also let's get back to some cold approaches, and I mean completely random girls walking around campus. This is where the numbers are.

Lastly, let's hear some library strategy! - My only idea for this is as follows

Either A: Horse girl opener
or
B: Hey, weren't you in my 5th grade class at Oakhill elementary.
HB: Um, no I think you have me confused.
Me: Yeah, remember you used to have that weird skin condition with all those blotches. What was they used to call you, scratchy right? Let me the first to apologize for say that you look alot better now that you got that cleared up.
HB: I'm not that girl.
Me: We should meet up sometime and reminisce about old times back at Oakhill.

the key here is that she knows you are messing with her. If she at least doesn't somewhat play along you know she's no fun.