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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:09 am 
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Hi.

I’m Kassor, and new to this world. I’ve started reading "The game" and got interested in this. It seams as if I talk to the targets about how the book tells me to act, I get lots of interest from them. When I talk to other PUA whannabees, they get mad about it.

I don’t see what the downside is. Do you guys?


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I think it's 'okay' but the thing is, won't these tactics just spread all throughout their social network and well, you should be prepared for resistance. Besides, out of formality, these things are secrets of the community. That's what I think. All up to you though.


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Thanks for answering. I guess your right. I would not want her to talk to her beautiful friends about how it all works. And I'm probably not nice if I let some of your secrets out to the targets. So what I will do is keep with the routine by telling that I’m reading a book and that I'm on a mission to pick them up. But I will not tell them how. That they will have to se for them selves. I'll keep you posted on the outcome of this.


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Hi kassor:

Just my 2 cents...

Telling your target what is your plan... Arent you doing the same thing an AFC will do ? (of course the AFC is not going to tell a girl that but he is telegraphing his interest with his actions and with his moves.)

I also dont think that will work with a 9HB That gets a lot of attention and is in a bar, She is so used to guys trying to get in her pants.

Kassor maybe that work with a girl you all ready know but your just going to turn on her Anti-Slut Shield or hwer Bitch Shield.

But anyway just my opinion.

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I always tell my target what the plan is. We call them Statements of Intent. "You and I are sleeping together later" is one of my favorite late-game SOIs. I tell girls that I know they are attracted to me, and that I am also attracted to them.

And I tell girls about the game. Not just the book, but the whole deal. I tell them about the seduction community. I tell them I'm a pick-up artist. Then the real kicker: I offer to teach them. Mocha is actually responsable for that, because having a girl know her game is alluring to me. It's like a good game of chess; it's more interesting and engaging when your opponent knows the rules as well as you do.


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I totally agree with Monkey. I have told girls I was a pickup artist. They seem to be intrigued by this. One actually said, "Really? Well then lets see you pick up me?" She said it in a non-believer way. I ran some Cold Reading, The Cube, Best Friends test, did the Trust test, the Animal Routine... and ya she was amazed. She couldn't believe how good I was at reading her, even though it was just standard stuff. Infact she forgot about then entire PUA line and wanted to know more before her jealous boyfriend came in and I ejected. I even told Melissa, the girl I am currently dating 1 on 1 about the entire community. I told her I picked her up at the bar, told her Monkey was running routines on her at the bar. She didn't seem to care, infact I think shes glad I picked her up at the bar. We are having a blast with eachother.


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If you tell that to a girl, she might get interested ; but If you tell her really soon your plans; YOu will fail.


But it is actually funny how they react, when you tell your a PUA.


But I dont think this might be a part of a routine or something , it also depend of the girl.

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Do you guys know where I can learn these tactics? Cold reading, best friend test, trust test and Animal routine? I don't get them. Thanks! :D


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There's nothing wrong with telling to soon. Besides if you loose your target because she thinkings picking up girls is wrong... then you were never gonna get with her in the first place.

As for you Sky.... ok Cold Reading is what is sounds like.. . . . . Cold reading. Its basically reading a girl without any prior knowlegde to who she is, what she likes, etc. These are the funnest. I will go over some...

Best Friends Test:
If your target is with another girlfriend, look at them and ask them if you can try a test on both of them... or however you want to initiate it.

Look at both of them in the eyes and make sure they can hear you... I have had this backfire due to a noisy bar.

YOU:What is your favorite Shampoo? (You can also try something else like desert or something two friends would know about eachother)

The end result will either have both of them answer simaltaniously..... They might look at eachother and look back and answer or they might even answer two different answers all together at the same time. If they answer the same without looking at eachother, just bring up that they must have known eachother for awhile since they did not look at eachtother or need assurment from the other. If they look at eachtoher this is a sure way to tell they are not very good friends, or haven't known eachother long enough to know that.


Trust Test:
This is a good test as it requires alil bit of sneaky Kino. You should try and build a slight rapport before using this as it might appear to be creepy.

Ask if you can do a test on her ... or again... however you wanna start it.

Look at her and hold out your palms face up infront of your body. Most of the time they will instinctively put there hands on your hands. (If you want you can even run alil Hand reading routine before this as it will make them comfortable with them touching your hands)

When they have their hands ontop of yours, slowly start moving your hands down. Then slowly to the side, both left and right, bring them slowly up and then maybe do circles with each. If they follow your movements with their hands then they have a trust for you. If not and they are reluctant to follow your hands then ... well build a higher rapport. If you do do this test do not grab there hands with your when they put them on yours. Just be contacted with the palms of the hands and finger tips.

Animal Routine:

This one is just a quick version of The Cube, or Strawberry Fields. Those can probley be searched for on this forum so I won't go over them.

The Animal Routine is a visulization test. You can bullshit through this if you have prior knowlegdge of animals or maybe just read up on some totem animals or animal spirts.

YOU:I need you to close your eyes (don't have to tell her to do that but I like it because if they trust you they will) I need you to think of an animal... but don't tell me what it is yet. Think of an animal that you would want to be if you could not be a human.

HER:Umm I would be a Panther.

YOU: OH? Really? Interesting

HER: Why what does that mean?

YOU: Well the Panther is a predatory animal. They enjoy the hunt... They tend to be night creatures and are very protective of their own. This animal is what best represends you..... (Or something along those lines).

On a side note... most women I have ran the test on have talked about being some sort of predatory feline. I love this because after I am done the test I bring up the predator thing again... this time I would neg them as being a sexual predator. Infact... I neg alot of girls in being sexual predators. Like Monkey said, they are the only gender with an organ specifically designated just for sexual intercourse.


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I posted the Animal Routine(complete version) for all of you in the routine section :D

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Thanks Shaft and Xfman! Truly appreciate it! :D


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I always tell my target what the plan is. We call them Statements of Intent. "You and I are sleeping together later" is one of my favorite late-game SOIs. I tell girls that I know they are attracted to me, and that I am also attracted to them.

And I tell girls about the game. Not just the book, but the whole deal. I tell them about the seduction community. I tell them I'm a pick-up artist. Then the real kicker: I offer to teach them. Mocha is actually responsable for that, because having a girl know her game is alluring to me. It's like a good game of chess; it's more interesting and engaging when your opponent knows the rules as well as you do.
ive a girl from work who knows the game pretty well,shes even used mysterys "if i werent gay youd be so my type" line before[shes bi,by thee way]
next time we hit town ill escalate a bit and try this out!


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some interesting comments.

One of my experiences was with my last gf. I made a mistake with names and got cought out running a routine/opener (lack of congruency) but she was already becoming attracted to me (highlighting the fact that what you open with is largely irrelevant). So she knew it was a line but she was mature enough to understand why I was using it :)

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Well I am kind of iffy on the whole telling thing. I mean it's not a bad thing but remember that chapter in "The Game" where all the girls on sunset blvd(? not sure(next to "project hollywood") knew what was up because every "PUA" was spouting out routines and lines left and right? It might create an awkward SPAM as it did for Styles. I don't know if this is noob or not but just my 2 cents.

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be totally up front about everything and all your intentions, and do it with a smile on your face.

you'll never fool a girl anyways. she knows you want her... that's why you are talking to her.

just don't call her a "target." :D she's a girl, not a terrorist hideout. :D:D

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