Even before reading Mystery's writings, I used pain to excite women and myself for that matter. Mystery talks about it in a few of his videos and I believe in some of his writings (its been a while I'd have to check). However, I usually waited until sex or foreplay to do the things Mystery talks about doing to women just while talking to them. Things like biting, hair pulling, other forms of pain. When I thought about this and began using it earlier on in a relationship, I realized what a powerful tool pain is. Pain makes people feel alive, pain is a stimulant, and pain feels good when attraction is mixed into it.

Anyone else do anything like this? I never hear any PUAs talking about it or discussing it...so heres the post.

_________________
Amor est Vitae Essentia

hair pulling yea big time but biting unless uve already isolated is kinda....creepy IMO at least

_________________
Vesper Lynd: Am I going to have a problem with you, Mr. Bond?
James Bond: No, don't worry, you're not my type.
Vesper Lynd: Smart?
James Bond: Single.

yeah fuck biting em - unless you have them butt naked in your bedroom. then game on!

but little cheeky games and playful shit. hell yeah!! its like a physical neg.

when i first got into the game and youve built comfort - playful games like rock, paper scissors was awesome.

plus, it would demonstrate what kind of women she was. is she was into playing around and this type of kino/ neg fun - then it would give her value to me. if not, then she was not the type of girl i wanted to be with .

so get slapping boys!

Pain depends on the girl. Some girls like it. Others don't. Use your judgment.

For instance, I would not be utilizing pain in a bookstore. Or a clothing store (unless it's one of those punk-goth clothing stores, in which case you can get away with damned near anything).

Clubs (again, particularly goth clubs) are much better for that sort of activity, but even then, be careful. You may get blown out depending on the dynamic of the set.

_________________
Repent now and save 50% on your next divine judgment.
-Monkey's Little Brother, Spud

I hafta agree with you meth, it does make you feel alive. It's the adrenaline, the fear, and the ultimate power trip. However I think as far as giving out pain to a woman in club, maybe a playfull slap on the ass, would be all that i'd do. I wouldn't be game enough to try it without coming across as creepy.
Especially, as i like to choke a hb a lil... to highten, the sexual tension, like pressing them up against a wall, and lightly gripping their neck a lil.
Also my personal favourite, would be the scratch marks on the back, or the inner thighs...
I know the answer to this, but have any of you guys, wonder why women will scratch you during sex???

_________________
Experience is the teacher of all things - Julius Caesar

no clue to the scratching...maybe marking us like with hickies....but scratches on the back is hott as hell idc who u are that shit is fucking hot

_________________
Vesper Lynd: Am I going to have a problem with you, Mr. Bond?
James Bond: No, don't worry, you're not my type.
Vesper Lynd: Smart?
James Bond: Single.

That scratching thing still has me a little stumped. The last girl i was with always left marks up and down my back with her nails and sorta bit a little and even loved the hair pulling. So can you shed light onto the scratching for us?

your a strange mother fucker............

Haha... cheer's mate, i'll take that as a compliment... But don't you agree, sex is better when a woman demands what she wants, or knows how to get it. I've dated a couple of women, and they've taught me a thing or two, on how to please a woman.

Now the answer for the scratching thing, it's to prolong the act of sex itself. See, I didn't realise this at the time of having sex, but what the woman would do, when she would sense i was near climax, was gouge her nails in my back, or on my inner thigh, this would draw my mind away from climax, and make me last another 15 minutes, and she would repeat the process, we would go for hours, although my thigh's and back would be pretty ripped up. I found this out, when I said to this woman:

Villain: Have you got enough of my skin, under your nails?

Her: haha... well, it stopped you from cumming didn't it..

The light bulb went off in the head.

I thought this girl must've dated alot of guys that didn't satisfy her sexually, or just didn't have the stamina to go with her, so she devised a way, to get men to go the distance. Smart woman i thought, rather than leaving herself unsatisfied, she manipulated the situation, till she climaxed, leaving both parties quite satisfied.

Anyone else, think of that answer?

_________________
Experience is the teacher of all things - Julius Caesar

Yes, I'm certainly not advocating that you start gnawing on every female you meet at the bar and whatnot. But once attraction and comfort has been built up, I strike up a conversation about pain and the powerful feeling you get from it. Blah blah blah and proceed from there.

@King: One of the most beautiful and sexy women I've ever dated loved me to choke her in bed, it is certainly a little weird, but I wouldn't be so quick to write it off. Like I said, I wouldn't just start choking random women in the club, but when it comes to rough sex, its fair game.

_________________
Amor est Vitae Essentia

Oh man, I get women so easily this way! Especially on the dance floor, I even made up a little dance that goes into the biting, scratching and hair pulling, I call it the dance of seduction....LOL and i even tell them about it and it gets them all interested in it and wanting to see what it is...but yea, I love it, good stuff.


FOX.