Mistakes Men Make On The First Date



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:57 am 
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Well, I guess nobody picked apart his mistakes:

so I'll do it! :D


WHAT HE FORGOT TO DO:

1. playful vibe
2. neg
3. DHV (he did neither canned nor situational DHV!)
4. teasing (to demonstrate that he's the prize...)
5. future projection
6. errrr... neutral topics for rapport???
7. stage locations/opportunities for comfort and kino...


WHAT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE:

1. ogling her while he was driving her to the venue
2. going to a movie as the first thing on the date (duh, movie date = LOSER to most women)
3. nibbling her ear in the dark theater. This is one step before kissing, and he had not built up enough kino compliance, so it seems desperate and creepy (this is why you should NEVER do a movie date - she will be too distracted for a seduction).
4. taking her dancing - DON'T do this UNLESS you are a VERY skilled dancer (and even then, your effort may come off as try-hard). Only take her to dance if you TRULY enjoy dancing.
5. grinding her like a porn star. Not every chick likes to dance this way - and a dance must escalate gradually. Don't push her into the DISCOMFORT zone. Not all chicks jive like that, and those that do usually know the game, so don't think bump 'n grind is enough to get them into bed.
6. begging to come inside for a drink after she said BYE. This guy really can't take a hint.


NOW, I know what you guys are thinking: "AFC". But I remember when I was an AFC, I sure as hell wasn't like this. :shock:

There's another word for this savage horniness, one of the PUAs on the SoSuave forums (the guys who wrote the "Don Juan Bible") calls it "DESPERADO DISEASE". Of course the guy IS an AFC, but he's not the typical "nice-guy" AFC. He's a dickhead (quite literally).

I think on the one hand you have the bashful nice guy, who supplicates in the HOPE that the girl may like him; and then we have the DESPERADO, who wrongly thinks that you should push a girl to have sex ASAP lest she loses interest. Both are clueless and have only a small part of the picture: the nice guy knows that respecting her, making her comfortable, etc. is important but he has no clue how to take action. The desperado knows he must take action, but he has no clue how to do it in a smooth way that a woman is comfortable with.


Now it's important to remember, THE WOMAN IS ALSO WRONG! She says that a true romancer takes it slow. That's because guys who have no game should take it slow - if you're not PUAing, you'd normally have to wait 3 or 4 dates or MORE (and she might lose interest). But if you neg, tease, do future projection, push-pull, demonstrate that you DON'T need her but she's welcome to come along for the ride - THEN she will open up faster and leave all her take-it-slow John Gray bullshit at home.

When women say "take it slow" they REALLY mean "don't make it so obvious that you want sex - EVERY GUY wants sex - and for the LAST TIME, so do I, but I want the prelude to be WORTH sleeping with!" Thus if you use the PUA techniques I listed on the first list above, she will be more interested, and a fast lay is more likely with less resistance. 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:17 am 
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What is the D Technique?

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I agree women want to have sex with you when you display higher value by giving a vibe out like you can get alot of women but you chose her.


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Hi Everyone,
My name is Harry. I do agree very well in the topic and will live up to it.I believe a man should take his time and be a gentlemen. To me there is a time and place for everything.

Harry :)


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