Okay, so i just wrote a F'n huge ass post on some success i have had on a family trip in Toronto. I should note that this trip started out on an extreme high. Here is a brief report,

Sitting on plane waiting for whomever is going to sit next to me. I am SHOCKED when this sexy chick sits down next to me, i saw her out in lounge but because i NEVER have sat next to a pretty girl on an airplane i didnt think much of it.

Well, i figure FUCK IT and i barge in. I ask a stupid question about using the chair next to me for my jacket (she was 1 seat away in a row of four). She doesnt care if i do. (not a great start, but whatever). A couple comes and since they are splie (seat A and C, she is B) would she mind sitting in C, which is next ot me! in my mind - FUCK YA! somehow we start talking.. i really wish i remember my tactics, but i think it was just a BUNCH of cocky funny shit. anyway, it's a good story because we talked the ENTIRE 5 hour flight.. and i mean the ENTIRE flight ( I even had superbad on my ipod and was stoked to watch it - actually i do recall using a time constraing, kinda, saying that i was gonig to watch my movie soon... i never did). Anyway.. we talked the WHOLE trip and i loved every minute.. id say she is an HB8ish (she was a viet / cauc mix). I got her number and we even texted a bit while I was in Toronto - my trip consisted of a quick trip up north for a week and then a return to Toronto for a week). we agreed to meet up back in Vancouver when i return, but i can tell she is SLIGHTLY hesitant to meet. I think it's an anti-slut defense, but i mean on the flight we talked about everything.. family, relationships, jobs, life etc.. and she was laughing like at least 50% ofthe time... so i KNOW if we can meet up she will warm up again.

What's the best way to approach this in your opinons? If you need more details, ask and i will provide what i remember.

also, i ended up ASKING directly for her number, which she had noproblem in giving. I find it super hard to get the number with out directly asking.. though this is generally not advised. HOw come, and how do you suggest getting numbers without asking for it. I'm semi-familiar with the strategies outlined within Style's book.

As things progress with this girl, who will be termed APG (airplane girl) I will post more.

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Haha kudos on the airplane close lol! A very similar thing happened to me when I flew from London back home to New York. I was studying abroad and I NEVER sit next to a hot girl, but this HB8 from Norway was next to me. We talked the whole time and I n-closed but the situation was weirder lol. I ended up watching a movie and she grabbed my hand to hold it. I fucked up bc I couldn't escalate in the plane, but I thought it was just a weird thing to do lol you know?!?

Anyways back to your issue. Theres nothing wrong with directly asking for a number. I mean you can use stuff that Mystery and others have written like tricks here and there --> for example 1 of Mystery's n-closes was to ask a girl if she was creative. She would respond yes and then he would hand a sheet of paper with underlined spaces and dashes to represent an empty space for the HB to fill in her number.

Here are some others you could use:
-Hey I gotta go meet friends now but you seem like an interesting/fun person we should get together/continue this again sometime. Lets swap numbers

-It was nice meeting you, what steps could we take to continue this conversation later? --> If you had good rapport she would respond by saying to swap numbers. This small, but important difference is that the girl has now offered her number first and not from you directly asking her. Tricky stuff ^^

Theres also the concept of trying to set up a solid day 2 before getting a number so shes already thinking about meeting up with you...but thats for another time!

Hope this helps

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It does help and i appreciate the response. That method of Mystery's you cited is a bit too indirect for myself, but perhaps at some point in my life I'll give it a shot. The other two are much more likely to be used. I think my biggest reservation is that if they DONT respond properly (saying, hey.. take my number or what have you) I dont want to walk away empty handed.

I suppose at that point you would just ask directly for the number... and nothing is lost.

Cheers for the reply man!

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I'm about to go overseas and doing a 12 hour flight from Australia to London... I madly want one thing, to n-close or even k-close an air hostess... suggestions needed!

the only advice is that i hope you get a decent flight attendant most of them are ugly nowadays.. lol

[quote="Cards"]I'm about to go overseas and doing a 12 hour flight from Australia to London... I madly want one thing, to n-close or even k-close an air hostess... suggestions needed![/quote

Cards, you can do it if you put your mind to it. You gotta take initiative. A few thoughts of mine are:

1. Make sure you have an aisle seat. You want to be able to get up and around w/o bugging people around her.
2. MAKE SURE to chat her up - ask questions about the menu. what drinks are there, "oh, that's all the options you have. I dont like any of those (look semi-frustrated).. what do you like(be sincere)? Oh, i dont like that suggestion at all (smile), I'll have a coke
3. GET OUT of your seat and meet her in the back. This is where you can actually try to open her and then build comfort.
4. Kclose might be hard - she is at work and COULD get in trouble if caught. This makes it an uphill battle, but if you get it... all the more too ya

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As this is my thread, i should probably tell you about the return trip. I sat next to a dude who slept the whole time and it sucked. There was potential. In the waiting area i spotted like 4-5 HBs who sat RIGHT by me. THey were with their familiy though, so they sat there for that reason not me. One was an HB10 i think, but i ignored her and didnt really get a good look. (i regret this). I DID manage the courage to talk to one of the other chicks (HB6-7ish), but it was nothing really. I felt weird with her family right there.. i just couldnt feel it.

at least i made small talk, a few months ago i woulda just sat there wishing i ahd the balls to make small talk.

ANYWAY - back to the HB from the first flight. I'm back in town and she txt'd me asking about my trip. I replied, havnt heard back. I called her once and left a VM. Still no reply.... how can i get her again? Suggestions on how to rekindle what we once had?

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(pulling your phone out already) You: "Hey lemme grab your number before I leave"

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Hahaha...

I've had almost the exact same stuff happen,

but shorter flight. 1 hour....


While traveling back from a conference-thingy I was sent on during my year of service in the Navy, I #-closed a HB-7,5; this was before I knew much about game, and of course I screwed the thing up after a month or so, but I remember talking with my brother on the phone before boarding, and I saw her waiting, and thought I'd like to know her.

And after boarding, sitting in my seat, who comes and sits right next to me; of course;

I don't remember how I opened, but she said something about how I seemed to have a creative aura, or something like that, so we talked about that sort of stuff;
And she was just returning from vacation in spain and had gotten some kind of henna tattoo or something on her back, and I described how I'd drawn wings on a girl while I was seriously drunk, (1st time on tequila)

turned out she'd gotten approx the same motif on her back, and so after a while we exchanged #s and she invited me to a Wine-evening at her parents house the following weekend...

Which did not go well... =P

But hey; c'est la vie..

If you don't get reply after both sms, and vm, then fuck it...
you'll only come across as needy if you nag...

haha yes always take the aisle seat!

this way you can chat with the seats on the other side of the aisle as well! so more available victims! (plus easier to get up and walk around if no interesting victim in proximity)

you can end up chatting with an HB further away even with other people in between, after a while these same people will suggest that you guys switch seats with them, really! just make sure you open them first so they like you and wont cock-block

ya, touche man, touche. She was hot, i want her.. but i can't let that get to my head. She has replied, we setup a lunch date. IMO she wants me too (damn im conceited), but she is putting up a STRONG ASD (anti-slut defense). She feels weird about how we met, and feels I do this all the time - which i am trying , but i wont tell her that. or should i? hmm...

Anyway, we have a lunch setup and I'll see how it goes. I think I have to switch it up and go for a heavy comfort building phase. I'd appreciate some suggestions on good comfort building routines. I dont really use canned material - i find it risky and awkward - but I love reading them as to create guidelines that i then use to create my own similar routines.

We meet on Thursday - i tried to come off as busy and was a bit pushy on when we met... i felt like she was owning the conversation, so i had to act like I had balls and a life and tell HER when we were meeting. - so that means posts will only be helpful for another day and a half....

hope to see a few

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good post sky, good post indeed.

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I agree with lovemonkey you never ask for a number you command them to give it to you!

easy to say, hard to achieve imo. I advise that if you try a few attempts at 'commanding' the phone numbers, but you just arent getting them... start by asking and aspire to get to the point where you can 'command' it.

I actually have had one success story where I got the number by implying we should get together later but i didnt know how I'd go about this. it worked, but i still sometimes ask. ><

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LOL so true, but I'll tell you this you will have a hard time n-closing or k-closing, the air hostess in at work and you are one of many customers, you won't get enough time for a decent conversation... unless you are flying business class. Then they are required to make some shity small talk with you, its funny when that happens.