hi there im off out to the pub tonite, im not sure what sort of lasses will be there but is it best to sarge in a pub or club? please let me know

First time I went out and tried a structured game plan (MM), i was pretty fuckin buzzed and i honestly had the tightest game ever. Still to this day i consider what i did that night to be my best pickup. Everytime i go out i drink at least abit and it never really hurts my game, if anything i think it helps. To each his own i guess.

PS- I find that being drunk on vodka cranberry for example is much better for gaming than being drunk on beer, i dunno why, but its a totally different feeling.

Moderation. A couple drinks acts as great social lubrication and can give you liquid courage. BUT if you can't just have a few, don't do it at all.

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well i normally drink and find it easier to approach with something in hand then nothing at all but moderation is key any ways you could do what style did to the porcelin twinz like ok i showed you enough going to get a drink why dont you guys show me somthing if you made game tight it will work i am not thier but trying makes perfection wooo hooo hahahhahahah

I often found that sets open at a higher rate without an actual drink in your hand. So even if I have a few drinks out, I'll open with a bottled water or nothing at all. Nothing shuts down a set faster than a mixed drink get waved around.

Not really sure who came up with this "Sargers should be sober" slogan but it's different for everybody. Some people are super sensitive to alcohol. Some people respond with anger. Others look the same after 10 shots.

One thing's for sure. The pua's who rely on memorized scripted games and go out with a little notebooks are going to get killed if they get drunk. As some of you mentioned, if you forget lines or mix up different routines, you're gonna look stupid.

On the other hand, for one reason or another, being able to handle liquor is ALPHA in many cultures. Sorry to bust on some of your MADD party types but this is simply true. Women do get turned on by a guy who can swig shots and still carry on a conversation, joke around, and be the life of the party. However, there's nothing more beta than buffoon who can't handle liquor, begins to act like an ass, and makes like a stripper on the table. So it's a risk. If you can't handle it, don't touch it. Know your limits and do what you can. It's different for everybody. Some people go comatose and freeze. Others start fights. A few however, just lets it loose and opens up every set in the club/bar.

I think that when you advance your game, you can do it with more alcohol. The more you advance the more tipsy you can be and still pull it off. It stops at some point though. AND, of course it also depends on the girls you have contact with at that moment, their character, and their alcohol-level.

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I actually think a few drinks might help ease the nerves, but as you mentioned it's all about balance.

lol nice, i have sarged with some alch, but as you said its good to relax but know when to stop so you can run mad game

just because mystery advocated against alcohol doesn't mean every pua has to follow suit. i don't use mm as much as i used to, and i know people that hate his method. whatever. to each his own and to his own each woman.

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Observation:

Drinking fucks up the logistics of your night game, unless you live within walking distance of a bar. If you don't, and you've got a HB with you and your fucked up, the temptation will tell you to drive home. Many a time has a potentially stellar night landed one in a jail cell. I've seen it happen. Not cool, and a bit of a DLV.

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I've come to an opinion about alcohol and gaming:

Theres drunk and sober, then theres being in a good mood and a bad mood. Obviously the two scales are unrelated. But i've found that if im in a bad mood and sober, I have more motivation to sarge than in a bad mood and drunk. The reason 4 this is, when im drunk and in a bad mood, ill adopt an arrogant attitude that im way better than all these stupid chicks, and I can be bothered. On the other hand when im sober, theres always a slight bit of social awkwardness about not being talkative, that will kind of force me to open sets, just so i dont feel like a shmuck. Social awkwardness always disappears soon after your into a conversation.

So staying sober when your not in state is definately a must. Because opeing sets is the best way to boost your mood. If you re drunk the likelihood is you wont be bothered to do this and thus remain in a bad mood all night.

Conclusion: if you start the night in a good mood, a few drinks wont hurt. If you start the night in a less than good mood, drinking will put u on a downward spiral. Hope this helps.

I think the reason a lot of puas advocate this is simply that in order to get good at gaming u have to practise night after night. Obviously drinking 4 or 5 nights a week will leave most people skint and possibly dead.

Still its fun to drink and it adds comedy to your nights, i dont think its bad in moderation.

For some people, it's cool to just get shitfaced and party it up - which is totally fine in it's place. Otherwise, if you're trying to stay in control, it's all about knowing your limitations and staying within them, or accepting the consequences of not doing so. Keep in mind that alcohol is a MOOD ALTERING DRUG. If you exceed your tolerance, you won't be able to remain the person you want to be. Some people (I'd like to think myself) can generally keep it under control and handle their alcohol, which is a good and important social skill to have that has served me well. But no matter what your limit is, being honest with yourself about your tolerance and staying within it is really important.