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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:54 am 
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In short, I wen't from cool guy, to loser, to cooler guy, but all the people who saw me as loser during that time, still view me as loser now. ha. shit... read on...

When I was young, I was sorta shy but had several gfs and was liked by many people. Moved to the city and basically didn't do any grade 6. Then moved back to town, went to public school for gr 7-8. Several tragedies happened during then(lost family members, our house from flooding) it was really stressful and I guess I subconsciously became a complete hyper/annoying/loser/class clown sort of kid to deal with the stress. Slowly lost nearly ALL my friends due to my behavior.

For grade 9 and 10 I home schooled online. That's when I stumbled across this whole scene and ate it all up as fast as I could, completely re did myself. Got lazy, stopped doing my work and never finished gr10. Went to a new public school in the next town over because it was supposed to be a good one. First couple weeks were hard readjusting socially, but then I had made quite a few friends and had pretty good status in with the "cool group" and was friends with a guy who is your stereo typical "everyone likes him, lot's of women like him" guy. Had women talking to me, people phoning me, invites, I was finally getting the results from my self make over. :D

For second semester my mom made me go back to old school because she had been driving me out almost a half hour everyday... even after 2 years some ppl nev changed their views, there was several people who didn't know me, I tried making friends with them and started out well then all of a sudden they ditched me and didn't talk anymore (their friends (the ones who hated me) influenced them). That made me less talkative again, kinda gave up and figured I'd wait it out and just not go back to that school hoping I could go to the recent new one that I had good rep in again. Well I have to back to it again... :(

Here's where my problem comes in, my rep is still fucked in that school with like 40% of the people. Even though I'm a totally dif person (been at this stuff heavily for over a year) there are certain people that influence my potential new friends to much. Every time I had some high status guys wanting to hang out for a couple days, they'd eventually just ignore me because of the influences of their friends. I am still a bit untalkative, but way more social then before and I know I am the kind of person a lot people would want to be around, according to all the new people I've met in the past year outside of school and from the ones outside town. But past issues and people who hated me in this town won't change and are influencing potential friends to much! :x

I feel like I'm just ranting but this is causing me a lot of stress because of the fact that I am different and a cool guy now but so many people who knew me still have negative views and won't change, where as before I changed it was totally understandable for them to hate me. It's walking around knowing how to make friends and being a chill person, doing it, then having you're new friends' friends stopping them from being with you. :x I've changed but they won't accept it, plus I'm in a small town so I there are like only 3 main groups of people in the school and I wan't to be in wit the ones (the cool higher status ones, who I actually used to be with bfore gr8), not with the "losers/nerds" or the "druggies/always in trouble" people. I'm basically fighting against the old haters in order to win over the new or passive people that are influenced by the haters so much.

And please don't tell me it's just high school either. Think of this, how would you like to be experiencing what I wrote in bold in the last paragraph? It's driving me nuts because I'll repeat, I proved to myself that I am an great guy now, but the people in this town won't accept my change and still view me as the loser I was years ago. Plus this town is small as shit (don't even have a walmart lol) so basically all my current friends are from outa town and the school I was in last year. School starts in a week. I really wan't this year to be good in that school and actualy have good friends that I can see more then once every couple weeks. :|

Advice please!

Thanks for your time heres a drink. *beer* :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:15 am 
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Hey, thanks for the beer. Mmm, James Squire. *cracks it* :D

I fully feel your pain here. I haven't been in the situation, but you are pretty good at explaining it. I think there is a clear cut solution here, but it may involve cracking a few eggs to get a good omelette, and it may also be unacceptable in your situation. Read on anyways and see if it would work for you.

Talk to the people who are being dickheads. Confront them. Go up and ask them what their deal is. Don't make it a short one either, go in where there are not going to be interrupts and make sure you can talk for a good while. Show them that you are high value, but you may not want to belittle them, that would just make them try to bring you down more. If necessary (and this is the bit you may want to think about, but I would DEFINITELY do it) if necessary, deck them. Violence really solves alot in a male setting, I don't give a fuck what everyone says. Have a fight. Once you are done (don't go all out, you both want to be conscious for the make up) get up and explain yourself. Tell them you are ok with them now, and offer them a drink or something. I have had alot of shaky friendships strengthened by just having a fight. As gay as it sounds, it serves the same bonding purpose between guys as sex does between a man and a woman. It removes alot of tension and as long as noone is going to shoot or stab anyone, or erupt in a gang war (I don't know how it works where you are) it has never had a severe long term negative effect for me. Although you shouldn't go in thinking 'I'ma deck this cunt', much like you shouldn't go in thinking 'I'ma kiss this bitch'. That would encourage the wrong kind of conversation. If you CAN sort it out with words, DO. Just don't be scared of a fight if it is necessary. Oh, and don't cry when you fight, it's just not good. You will undoubtedly go through a range of emotions when you are fighting, but hold back them tears.

As well as this, if you want to just manipulate your mum into sending you back to the other school, tell her that you are really having a hard time with the school, try to work it out, like get a bike or your liscence or public transport or whatever is in your grasp. Your mum will most likely be able to relate. She was a teen once too. If that doesn't work, getting into a fight will probably twist her ear a little.

But, you might not want to fight them. Then you might want to just go for the talk. Or go out with your friends from the other school, and in general get a good social life outside of the school. Maybe get some of the blokes from the current school to come out with you on the weekends. Or just hack it man. Sorry. :| you might want your beer back...

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