Ok just got a #-close...here's how

It was completely situational...but I just learned that you have to make every opportunity count.

My roommate and I where walking on a sidewalk to his car. Then this girl yells out behind us:

HB7: Excuse me!
I ignored her but my friend turned around and nudged me..so I slow turn back and this HB7 and HB8 are on bike like right in font of me. The HB7 and I do the back and forth dance..."which way you gonna go George" then I just stand there right in the middle and force her to stop (and her HB8 friend who was behind her). I then I was like...
ME: OMG what are you trying to do kill me!?
HB7: (smiling) no no really I tried to warn you.
ME: yeah when you where right on top of me...you really should get like a little horn or something
HB7: haha I was totally thinking about that...
ME: THINKING!! see where that gets you? you nearly ran me over! stop thinking and just do it
HB7: haha
Me: Ok well since you nearly turned me into road kill i think you need to make it up by buying me a coffee.
HB7: haha what?
Me: no haha missy, I'm serious! tomorrow we can go to the "school coffee shop" or Starbucks and you buy me a White Moca. Look, I'll even bring my buddy here and you can bring you're girl. So give me your number and I'll text you tomorrow for my coffee.
HB7:haha (touches hair looks at her friend...get the go ahead nod...SCORE!!!)

but then I realized that I f'n forgot my phone!!

ME: ahhh...and I forgot my phone at home. I can't believe this...(look to roommate) you got your phone.

roomate pulls out his phone. I grab it out of his hand (I felt so Alpha!!)
ME: ok put you're number in here. (gave her the phone). Now since you still haven't told me your name...(HB7 laughing)...I'm xxx and you are...?

We all do the intro thing and I drop another neg or two on both the girls and tell...

ME: what are you waiting for? you going to buy me that coffee now?

They laugh and ride off...my (roommate, he just moved in the week before) and was "Wow! I can't believe what just happened!"

This is my FIRST! #-close since I came to this site and I couldn't believe it (but didn't show it lol)

The best part is that it all just came so naturally!!!!

Again...take each encounter as an opportunity!!!

good point about the freshman girls.....


im a junior... should i feel bad that im getting older every year and the new talent i might eventually game is always the same age?.......no.....lol

Good job man! I really liked the way you took complete control of the situation. And left no room for her to hesitate.

Well, I still have some work to do. So far orientation week for me is a disaster. Ever since I got to campus I haven't felt comfortable with girls and guys alike. I am gonna have to put some more effort into this. I guess, I set a small goal for my self tomorrow... to open at least 4 people. small talk. 2 of them must be girls atleast.

I was actually thinking the other that that we could really use a "college game" section here. Sure it would be less organized than the opening section or closing section, but college game is fundamentally different, enough so to deserve its own section I think

Sometime within the next week, I might write the mods. What do you in college think?

I love talking about majors because it presents a easy opportunity to neg/go direct/do whatever you want. For example I said this to a HB9 I remember seeing 2 days ago. I said she looked familiar and she said the same. I negged her on not remembering my name and threatened to walk away, but then she thought of it. I gave her a quick hug as a reward. Its important to reward the girl for jumping through your hoops because if you just overneg (which too many aspiring PUAs do...it usually ends poorly lol).

Heres my gambit for asking about majors:

"So what you do study...actually dont tell me, I'll take a guess". Now you can look intently in her eyes and even check her out from head to toe. You can do this many different ways but I decided to start out with a neg because she was smokinnn hot!

"Well since you look like a total dork....im going to guess your an aerospace engineer" (with a slight grin) --> she laughs

I follow up with something more direct: "Actually...you pretty cute, well-dressed...your an textiles and apparels major (fashion)" -->she laughs again but im still wrong lol. But after you've had your fun you can find out her real major is and do what you want from there!

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As a fraternity man, i know that girls are just girls; they're generally the same whether they are in a sorority or not. Don't look too much into it.

... tho being in a fraternity does make approaching them easier

Well, that means if you're not a frat guy it's a bit HARDER. Many of the hot girls on my campus are sorority girls, I'm not in a frat and it's too late to join one (nor do I have the time for pledging...) And they seem to have this arrogance about them except when they meet frat guys that BOUGHT their social proof with fees and dues.

Now I know that sounds harsh, but the reality is harsh for lots of guys that are new to the PUA community and are NOT into the whole frat scene. Many of us have also had to develop our own material, which I can do within a few hours, but my point here is that we need an exchange of ideas and FEEDBACK when it comes to our college game so we can improve it, since there are very few posts on it. It would be great if someone would post routines for getting sorority girls with a COLD APPROACH (among the other scenarios that I listed).

Cuz that's what being a real PUA is about

Other than that, keep up the good work! Keep posting your college routines so we can all test them out. The majors routine is pure GENIUS! I mean, until now I just saw majors as a rather clumsy way to begin rapport, it always seemed forced to me because the question of majors usually comes up too early for rapport - so it just became another stale topic. But using it as a neg routine is something I had never thought of... Damn, it just proves that big ideas sometimes DO hide in plain sight!

It came up to me the biggest problem is "u cant just leave when you screwed up". U probably will see that girl again.
N remember"Dont shit where u eat"
so, i find college game is challenging~

i have been having amazing success in college so far and it just started last week. One of the best things to do in college game is to tease them and give them a childlike nickname that they hate because it gives you two something to argue over a little bit and it's really fun. To game sorority girls...tell them that you're interested in joining a fraternity and ask them which one she thinks you'd fit in with the most (most of the sorority girls and fraterninty guys are close). If you want to know any other information let me know...i'm pretty good at college game.

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Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude."
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To win you have to risk loss.
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That's great dude. If you're good at college game by all means post a few basic routine stacks (from opener to #-close) from how you typically mack chicks on campus (I'd also be interested to know logistics info, like the setting, how crowded it is, obstacles, proximity, the usual stuff)

Right now I'm getting prepared to go back to college, and mainly I figure the most target-rich environments on my campus are:

1. the outdoor food court (lots of tables and sets)

2. quick-order restaurants (we have a pizza/pasta joint and a sushi place right next to the food court for example) - I want to know how to quickly pull both customers waiting in line and girls that work there (they are HOTT!)

3. the main road that circles around campus - it's a big campus, and there are hundreds of HBs walking to class/lunch/etc. but I've always found opening a moving target to be tricky in day game - even more when they're snobby O.C. girls with their friends.

4. After class/ after a class that isn't mine (Translation: I will often notice that there are lots of HBs in a class that I'm not taking, but I have a break during the time when they come out. This is probably the trickiest campus cold approach cuz they just left a class, I don't have social proof, etc.)

5. Sorority girls operating booths around campus. They all gang together and isolating from a booth is tricky - plus they are in "sales clerk" mode (they are only being nice to invite you to one of their parties in some other zip code!) - plus I don't want to lie and say I want to join a frat, because then they would try to ditch me by directing me over to some frat guy (I've tried it before...)

6. Girls in cultural clubs (I know that MECHA is really big on my campus, but being latinas they are probably used to players trying to pick them up... plus I used to know them for a while in my AFC days, I did a REALLY bad DLV, then I just avoided them because I didn't know how to game them). Also girls in Armenian club, other ethnic clubs, etc. Some of them are clique-ish and racist, should you just ignore this and plow ahead?

7. The campus Starbuck's. Kind of like the food court only more crowded and "cozy" in that bookstore/post-modernist way. Lots of girls studying, doing coffee, and sitting with their female friends. How to approach?


So if you have any ideas for these scenarios, I'll be happy to hear them. I'll leave college parties for a bit later until I have day game cornered.

i mostly like to game at the sports center at my college and parties. i honestly just follow the mystery method whenever i game because it never fails. if you follow the structure of TMM you shouldn't have any problem whatsoever.

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If you can't attract a woman you are, by definition sterile" ~Mystery

Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude."
Zig Ziglar

To win you have to risk loss.
Jean-Claude Killy

Well, first off, lemme start by saying don't hook up with girls from your residence hall (or if you live in a large one, your floor)... It can only become awkward. Instead, try gaming the girls and using them as pivots. Works a lot better.

As far as frats go, they generally hold the biggest parties with some of the more target-rich environments on campus. This should not be overlooked. Even if you don't want to rush, its always helpful to have a few friends in a frat. If you know some of the guys there, you'll look like you're a brother and get pretty much the same rapport is if you were one. What seems to be the key to this is locating the frats that have cool, well-rounded guys in them (not all meat heads, dorks, preps etc...) And you have to remember that you are partying in their home. They live there. They have a right to be a bit protective of it. Oh, and before you close a girl, make sure she's not a brother's girlfriend.

Gaming in class... i haven't found it to be so successful. A few cocky/funny comments here or there are OK, but i'm here to get grades first, girls second. What has worked for me, however, is getting to the class early so you can open a girl, start building rapport etc... This is great for big lectures, as people are generally waiting outside the hall for at least a few minutes so that they can get better seats.

Also, with small discussion classes such as a writing or philosophy course, be active in the class... discuss with the teacher. Debate (don't argue) with the professor on topics that are brought up... try to make it look as though you're having a one on one discussion with them. Huge DHV to some girls, especially when you're cocky/funny about it....

I was once in a psych class (this was actually back in HS) where i would volunteer answers that nobody knew etc... just cus i had some background knowledge in it. We came to the topic of emotions and how there are only a select few and they're all pretty readable with facial expressions and whatnot. I was personally studying for some test that i had forgotten about that was coming up that afternoon. To showcase "surprise" the teacher tossed his whiteboard marker at me when i was reading my book. I just sorta looked up at him with a with a poker face and when he held his hands out for me to toss it back i said "no, i'm keeping this." "Keeping it?" he asked as the classic surprised look came across his face. I said "Yeah. Surprised?" as i tossed it back to him. The HB8 and the HB9 who sat across the room gave this priceless look to each other.

I'll add some other stuff when i figure it out some more. Basically, i've noticed that college provides endless situational opportunity.

There is no place where you "game" girls. Theres no secret ingredient that you eat and start gaming girls before it varies off.

There is no acting, we are not in a theater. Theres just you, and PUA is about changing you.

I don't even think of PUA'ing as "gaming" anymore. I just speak to them. I'm being myself.

To me its same as normal interaction with women. Basically I do it anywhere it happens to be.

I haven't ran any canned routines for 2 months now. I'm proud of myself, and you are proud of me too!


I have played this game to the point where it starts losing its taste. Thats why I now play a different game, a harder game.

The LTR game.

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Ouch. I'm hurt... Ok, I'm lying... If that's how you feel, that's perfectly fine... I'm gonna go off on a tangent here, but to everyone, what I'm about to say is worth considering and relevant to what we're talking about here...

What fascinates me about non-Greeks is that they never really look beyond like Animal House or whatever. Sure, being in a fraternity is for social purposes, but there are other purposes that extend beyond partying, meeting girls, getting hammered, etc.

Fraternities and sororities are still about brotherhood and sisterhood, respectively. They're (supposed to be) about people coming together who share common values, morals and ideas; people who share a common vision if you will. That probably sounds really sappy, and I know first hand that you can't always find that, but I'm fortunate because that's what my fraternity is about. Like I can honestly see myself still doing crazy sh*t with my brothers when I'm an old fart lol

They're also highly organized and operate like businesses. Yeah, you gotta pay dues and what not, but we always do fun stuff and by combining our resources ($$$), we can make it easier to do fun stuff. And I'll tell ya this much, what you put into it is what you're going to get out of it. If you pay and don't go to socials, philanthropies, Rush, whatever, you're not gonna get anything out of it. You just wasted your $$$.

Also, there are officer positions (I'm the treasurer in my chapter), which, while you can take with you later on in life, are assets to you right now because you can add what you do to your resume because employers, they love that kind of stuff. I mean, if you do it your entire time in college, it shows you can stick with something (tho I suspect that your BA or BS would indicate that as well lol). Like doing what I do, it shows I have HR management skills, financial and accounting management skills, time management skills... i could go on, but you get the idea.

Let's not forget about networking... it ain't what you know, it's who you know. Last month, I went to Virginia for conference for my fraternity (I didn't even have to pay to go!) and I met a hell of a lot of awesome bros from around the country and got to meet a lot of older alumni who are active in working for the Order and who I know will be an asset later on in my life.

Basically, what I'm getting at is that you will develop your PEOPLE SKILLS! Something that is obviously important in life and in becoming a successful PUA. I joined my fraternity way before I even found out about PUA and prior to even joining my fraternity, I was the nerdy, quiet guy, but my fraternity transformed me into a stronger, more open, social kind of guy. I went from being a blob of cookie dough into, well not a blob of cookie dough lol I'm active, talkative and much happier than I've ever been

Being in a fraternity was something that I needed because it forced me to socialize, it forced me to actually try, it gave me a purpose and it helps to make college much more... interesting

So for some people (emphasis on some because I know it's not for the other some people), even when you think that you don't need it or that it's not for you, it's more than likely what you actually need.

Getting back on topic, when sorority girls are not as arrogant, it's just because you share something in common with them; you're Greek, they're Greek... At least, that's what I've found. Sometimes they just don't respect those who aren't Greek, but you shouldn't let that stop you from gaming them.

And I won't lie, being in a fraternity can make you an arrogant bastard (that's probably a supremely bad word here, but whatever), but I ask you, is there anything totally wrong with that to begin with? I mean, perhaps, in some ways yes, no one likes d-bags and you shouldn't really act like one, but on the whole, I view it as an okay-to-good kind of thing.
Indeed, I really like the content of this thread. The major routine sounds great! I'm gonna try that out later today and tomorrow and I'll try to remember to report back on that. I was gonna say that it might work best when you're a freshman or sophomore, but i think it can actually transcend into your junior year... not so much senior year when you take like Finance 421 tho

Again, great thread! Keep 'em coming! (And I'll articulate some of what I do a bit later; gotta get back to work )

DUDE! I joined for the exact same reason and although it took me a lil while to warm up to all the guys and feel more comfortable around them it definately made me more confident.

PS- I just thought of a cocky/funny routine to do in the first week or 2 of classes. You walk into the lecture hall, spot your set, go up to them, lift up your hand offering a HIGH FIVE, even say it "come on, high five". If they ask what for, you can tell them "cause you're in the same class as me" with a cheeky smile. If they dont ask, you just say "thats for being in the same class as me!". Then just sit next to them and tell them a DHV story or run some routine.

Its really simple. What do you guys think?