I have two problems at the moment, and i wanna get ideas/suggestions from you guys.

Background info- I have been talking to a hb 8, no problem there. I did a good job of building comfort, and rapport. She number closed me, the first night, suggested that i visit her at work, and actually suggested day 2. The next day she texts me, and we have a short convo, she was just seeing what i was up to. no big deal. the next weekend, we run into eachoter at a party, and we wind up leaving and going to the hookah bar. The question of wether or not i think she is attractive comes up. I blow the question off, but my friend that decided to tag along, won't let me blow the question off. He rephrases it, and puts me on the spot. So i just said that hb 8 was cute. We leave the hookah bar, and go back to the party. (this is were it gets really messy) So, the party ends, and she walks right up to me. It is so easy to see that she was waiting on me to make a move. I picked up on it, but i blew it off. I do this everytime, and i don't know why. Now i have another friend, lets call him x, he slides in on hb 8 the next day. They hung out a few times the following week, and he kiss closed. I end up hangin out With her that saturday. Now this is our day two. we go to the club, the vibe wasn't that good, so we go for a drive. We drive around and talk for a couple of hours. This is totaly unplanned, so i decide that i should try to take her to this place overlooking the city, but i don't find it. My hope was to try and close her or atleast build more attraction at this spot. so the night ends, and i get nothing but frustration out of it. ( i got nothing, no close, just nothing)

the problems- Now a while ago, she hooked up with my friend c, but they no longer talk. I got the go ahead from him, so no probems coming from him. She is starting to feel attraction for friend x (beginning stages), but thinks it would be odd, because he is also pretty good friends with c. so she kinda would feel like a bit oh a whore if she was to hook up with x. That counts against me, because i am one of c's best friends. My question is how do i overcome the attraction that she feels for x, and how do i overcome the mental block she has due to my friendship with both x and c?

would it be better to just say screw this one, and move on to the next girl? That is what i am thinking about doing, but not really sure yet. I know that if i continue trying with her, it will not mess with my friendships.

My other question is, how the hell do i overcome my mental block that stops me from closing? I don't get scared when i know it is time to close, i just blow it off for some reason. I don't act when it is time to full or kiss close. I have kiss closed before, so that isn't anything new. I still have yet to full close, but have been given multiple chances. i have had girls naked, in bed, warming themselves up, in front of me, and i did nothing. we kissed, but i couldn't get behind the idea of full close. I don't feel fear when it comes down to these types of closes, i don't feel anything. I pick up on what i need/should do, but i just don't do it. you guys have any suggestions on this?

sorry for the long post...

I did'nt read your entire post but mate..do all your ladies get banged by your friends, yuck disgusting..bleh go aheads or not, have some pride mate, its just a girl, and your friend k-closed her fucking a..think about it.

Let me rephrase she goes from you, to friend A then onto friend B then back to you, what is she merry go' round?

SF

lol, no they don't get banged by my friends. this is actually the first time. I have pride, but i also wanted peoples take on things. I know she is just a girl, and there are plenty more out there. The whole thing isn't a big deal, but at the sametime; it confuses the hell out of me. yeah, you could compare her to a merry go' round. lol. I think it is hard to keep the girls seperate, because all of my friends are also in to pick up, so it just non stop gaming with a lot of these girls. this is the first time that we all went for the same girl and she bounced between.

So lets just say that i am done with this one...athough i do have to say that there is a pattern starting to form with these girls. I need to find a new venue.

How do you guys suggest i overcome my problem with closing?

Show dominance, make your friends understand your turf, dont let them overstep your boundries, fuck dude she was with you to start with if I understood this right, your friend kinda backstabbed you, but fuck it, wait for the moment then do the same to him, mhm revenge..its so bitter sweet, I am feeling all warm and fuzzy inside anyway, so you want this chick, I hate to break it but imo its to late, move on, game around, then go back fuck her brains out, then tell your hound friends they can have the scraps


SF

lol, i like your style. I can agree to that. thanks for the advice.