So i'll make this really short, or try to at least.

Basically I finished school last year and took a year off, I had a really good friend Hb8 which i basically ignored all her advances through school due to the fact that ive known her for 3 years. Also i really enjoyed how hard she tried it was quite fun . thats reminds me how much i miss school lol.

Anyways i haven't talked to her for almost 8 months and out of the blue when i was out with a buddy of mine at the club he invited her to come with us. Anyways night went alright was getting tons of attention from other girls, Woo ladies night . In the end i just got hammed, and when we were leaving I made out with her.

Didn't talk to her or anything for about 2 weeks and this past week she ended up calling me at like 11 when i was out drinking with some buddies. Anyways i met up with her later that night, which was a mistake on my part, i was pretty drunk, but anyway i played it pretty much like we were friends just hanging out. We ended up kissing and all that shit and well she wanted a lot more.

In the end i didn't sleep with her or anything i told i didn't feel confortable. I think it's mainly because i don't know if she wants a relationship out of this and i really don't want to hurt her since ive known her for so long. But shes pretty freaky and i would like to be "good friends" with her.

I texted her last night just cause none of my friends wanted to go out.

Me: You busy tonight?
HB8: No not really
Me: You should come over.
HB8: Why? you having a get together or ...
Me: ... ?
HB8: Hmm im starting a new job tomorrow at 8, i dont know.
(At this point i saw this as a flake, even though i do know she actually was starting a new job)
Waited a hour or so
Me: Uh its up to you.
HB8: Hey im getting up early, so not tonight hun.
Wait a couple hours
Me: Good Night.

Anyways id thought i wait for her to call me next since im sure it will happen i just don't know how to play it know and how to deal with the whole friends thing. Anyways i'd like to get some suggestions on this.

You know when you play with a hb for as long as you have,she is bound to say you know what fuck him..Seriously in the nicest way what is the point of you leading on this poor girl??Ok the motto of a PUA is always leave her better than you found her!!!I think you totaly played this all wrong man,I normaly find it funny to see a guy push pull to make a hb want him more.But in this case 3 years? Dude you should really be ashamed.She was so into you man and you blow her off everytime,but not until you tease her once again..That is so wrong man...The poor girl must be head over heels for you but you honestly don't care about her.I would have to classify you as a Player not a PUA..PUA's have a purpose with a hb,hell forget PUA all together.You are going after her self confidence,constantly breaking her down.She prolly goes home or when she was at school and cried and asked herself what is wrong with her to not get you to like her..I suggest you tell this Lady that you are sorry but You just want to be friends or you want to try a relationship and tell her your sorry for playing with her all these years..I know your prolly thinking man he is a fucking idiot,well Sometimes I can be but I am a guy who actually cares for woman and I think what you have done is wrong on every aspect of what PUA is all about..Hell in the first 2 pages of the MM it is boldy stated the MM is dedicated to woman...Quit playing the player and be a man be a PUA...leave her better than you found her!!!!


Jamie V.

Hey i understand where your coming from and i totally agree but i wasn't totally clear on the 3 year thing. I've known her for 3 years but the only time i know she was into me was the last semester of grade 12 and well now.

At this point im not pushing or pulling at all i just didn't feel comfortable doing anything with her especially since i haven't talked to her about it in any way at all. The only thing holding me back is the fact that i don't want to hurt her in a bad way.

I also understand that this isn't really a pua or afc problem more of a personal problem, but you guys are really the only people i can turn to for advice on this stuff.

Ok even tho it was only in the last semester,You still have messed with her mind man.Quit wondering about what she wants ask her point blank what she is wanting from you to tell her you dont want to hurt her..I dunno for some reason I don't like how you handled this..The girl obviously liked you or she wouldn't have made out with you,then called you because you never called her after the make out session..Obvious IOI I am not the best at this but you are looking at what is going to benifit you,you should concider her as well.Don't lead the poor girl on man..If you want her then tell her if you just want to be friends just tell her..Either or its all on you but as a guy who has seen friends of mine treated like this it really hits home..Good luck to you and I hope you make the right choice...

Thank you for the advice

"You haven't talked to her about it"?
Well she sure has talked about it against you, just without using actual words.
and you've pretty much talked back too, making out doesn't really sound like "Let's just be friends".
Get your mind sorted out, do you want to be just friends or would you consider more ?