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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:07 am 
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I have lost my game, I just don't know whats going on. I know the terms in words, and text, but in the field im like a liquid, I just fall through the hands of the creator.

I need a restart. I know the mystery method, back and forth, so... spare me that please? I have no say, whatever you tell me to do, Im going to.

Where do I restart at? Where do I start? What should I read? What should I work on? Im in highschool and I can't even run the cube without being fucking rejected... I try to build some comfort and she gets all creeped out "Why do you know this? How did you learn this? Freak"

Help me please.... I really feel like shit.

Where do I start?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:14 am 
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Gay, i think you are just overthinking everything. You have to think less and be yourself more.

If a chick says "Where did you learn this?" just reply, "A friend from my old school showed it to me. She was really into things like palm reading and showed me this."

It sounds more like your inner game is what needs the work. If girls are being creeped out its because you are putting up a front and not being yourself. They may be reading into that and seeing you as a phony. Relax and quit putting so much pressure on yourself to make every interaction with a woman perfect.

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Brilliant. Appreciate that you recognize this and take full advantage of it, you're young, you've got more than plenty of time to learn; god if I had known about this stuff back in highschool I would have probably been a creeper now and then too, cause I probably was at any rate, it's a learning process, you aren't a natural, you're trying to learn a foreign skillset. This is refered to by some people as the J-curve, or by others as just plateauing before reaching an epiphany (if you have the courage to keep pushing to you hit it at any rate) and begin to increase in skill, before again plateauing and climbing further. This is how we as human beings tend to learn.

I recommend you rebuild, but don't unlearn the lessons you have already learned, just pick up the pieces, put them back together while strengthening the knowledge and experiences with new information and experiences and you'll end up with something bigger and better in not too long from now.

I'd suggest starting by reading Awaken the Giant Within by Anthony Robbins and Introducing NLP by Joseph'O Connor and John Seymour. If you think you are a good enough person to see the practical application of NLP on your everyday life, on how you can enhance communication with people and not think about it as a tool in order to manipulate people; then I'd suggest reading Intro NLP first, as it really helps solidify a lot of the things Tony says in his book, as you recognize the NLP he is using on you, in order to ingrain concepts in your head. Have a good highlighter handy for both, as you come across key points it will hammer them into your head better and they'll stick more (I found a sweet thin light blue one that manages to leave a bit of white above and below, so it makes reading it again later really easy, best highlighter ever, get one). Pick up a copy of How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie, that has some serious relevance for you and is probably worth reading before you read another thing. Those are a few to start, but I bet by the time you are part way through the first, things will start to get progressively better.

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Gay, i think you are just overthinking everything. You have to think less and be yourself more.

If a chick says "Where did you learn this?" just reply, "A friend from my old school showed it to me. She was really into things like palm reading and showed me this."

It sounds more like your inner game is what needs the work. If girls are being creeped out its because you are putting up a front and not being yourself. They may be reading into that and seeing you as a phony. Relax and quit putting so much pressure on yourself to make every interaction with a woman perfect.
Precisely why I suggested the books I did (guess you posted just as I was writing mine up Chino, or I woulda said this sooner). I think he needs to develop some social expertise, as well as solid inner game and those 3 books will surely do just that.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:53 am 
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Take a break from sarging and go do stuff that's interesting to you man. Try new things, new sports, new hobbies, new groups of people, etc.

For me going to the gym and studying hard in school gives me enough purpose that the game is just a thing on the side.

I think Style mentions that at some point - which leads to extramask taking a break to find himself.

Goodluck man

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:11 am 
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I felt like this shit wasnt working on me, I kept failing sets. Kept getting rejected. Then it sort of just clicked with me one night when i had no intention of sarging. This kind of stuff can't really be rushed. Go out have fun, don't worry about sarging or gaming. Eventually all the stuff you learned will start coming out in your personality.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:57 am 
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Forget the cube, the super magic flying dragon routine, (thats not what gets you the girl). The negs, canned stories and all the stuff clogging up your brain. Just go out, open and naturally talk to girls. Like i said to you before, stay focused on making new friends (preferbly female) and building your new social circle. Its most common that when two get together its by 'meeting through friends'.
I havn't read many books on the subject, most of what i learnt is through real life in-field experience.

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Hey, I've been feeling the same way lately. Like Rye Lee recommends, you should really read some Anthony Robbins. It helped me.
I also watched Style's Annihilation method again for fun. Kind of helped me in a way, too.


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if you havent checked it out i kinda recommend pickup podcast... the older episodes are pretty nice for learning a few things about natural game and the later episodes are mostly interviews with gurus, it's been pretty helpful to me in a few ways. It really put a lot of things into perspective and made this less of a calculated game for me. They talk bad about a lot of the mystery method stuff but they get gurus on their that talk about it and seem to keep an open mind. give it a try.

for serious inner game work i have to recomend Hypnotica. but at the same time some of the exercises might be weird since you're in high school but if you can adapt them that would be a good thing to try. He's one of the guys interviewed on the podcast too so you could check him out there.

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Gay I dont know if you think that girls are hard to talk to and that you need the cube and all other pickup stuff just to talk to them because if you do than your completly wrong. Sure the cube and the 5 question game and all that other cool stuff is cool to use but dont do it like in the first 5 minutes of meeting them. Your in high school just be cool, chill, and wait till the friends come to you or just be indirect For example you could ask hey do you guys know the answer to... or something like that.

BUT The Most Important Thing To Do Is To Not Come Off As Needy. People Will Treat You Like Shitt If You Do That. and if you have already come of as needy to some people just ignore them dont pay to much attention to them anymore maybe once in a while say hey whats up or something. Anyways Good Luck.


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back to basics

go where people are paid to be nice to you

clothing stores, waitresses, etc

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You need to relax, jerk off and have a hot shower!

everything is fine, a venusian artist is never anything less then a venusian artist. You havn't been forgotten and you haven’t fallen off with your game, trust me, game is instinctual, the logical shit your studying such as openers all that is great, but without the founding principle of confidence its outright nonsense. Take it from me man I'm a very decent and effective PUA in field. If you throw me more detail on here, write your heart out ill try to give you some decent advice. But it looks to me like you need to realise what being normal is, and just chilling out going with the flow. You sound earth bound by rules and pickup artist regulations, which is fun but at the end of the day your speaking to a equal female being, she’s real not programmed! Rules are always there to be broken or bend, they are a guiding principle not a fact in hard written stone. So a sense of reality is always preferred!

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