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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:00 pm 
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Ive kind of made an unspoken rule for myself, in regards to what warrants a response from me to girls when they say something, text something, im something...

Ive broken thier actions into 2 things...

"Me" Questions/comments

and

"You" Questions/comments

Whered i get the names?

This is a little complicated, first put yourself in thier shoes and ask yourself "if i where that girl, why did i just ask this question or make that comment?"

If the answer for her own needs (attention, manipulation, nothing better to do, etc) ie "about "me" (remeber your thinking as if your her) then its a "Me" Question or comment.

If the answer is for her to mutually benifit both of you, or her interest in you (learn more about you, find out what you like, find out what your doing to make plans with you, etc) then its a "You" questions cause its all about you, it lets you take the stage, control the convo and game them.

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So, if a girl is only contacting me for herself (a "Me" question) then it does not warrant a response from me....some examples;

what are you doing?

your silly/random/goofy/funny... (ie: calling you names to get attention, not to banter)

what are you doin next weekend? (notice its vague)

are you there?

call me (otherwise not preplanned or agreed to, out of the blue)

Should i do x or y?

etc

However, if the girl is contacting me to get more info about me, get to know me better, spend real time with me, etc...then it warrants a response (notice not immediate response, and normal rules apply here...you dont have to give a iteinerary when asked a question or tell them your life story) because the question comment is all about "You" it allows you to go into DHV stories or respond in a genuine way or go cocky funny or go into a more sexual frame etc.

What are you doing tonight? (notice the specific time frame...)

How are you/are you ok/how life treating you/etc

or any example of calling you by a positive pet name or bantering with you... theres a difference between them saying your random/wierd etc and using a pet name lover/hottie/babe/etc.

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Can you give me a contrasted example?

Sure, If i have a girl ask me what im upto tonight i may say something like "Well i have tentative plans, but if you have something better to do, i may consider dropping them." or "tell me what you have in mind, and if its more exciting then what im doing ill let you know" or "your comming over to watch a movie../im comming over to hang out.../we are going to x place" (dependant on your style and where your at with her in terms of the social connection.

If a girl asks what im doing this weekend, if i respond at all...its later in the week (last min), and its either along the lines of "i have plans ill ttyl" or if you dont have anything to do, or your plans are tentative, "I have tentative plans, give me a call and let me know what your doing and when, then ill consider it." (this gives her a hoop to jump through, if she calls reward her by actually considering and possibly doing/going along with the plans)

basically it all boils down to sifting the shit out of the positive convo, and only spending your time on worthy questions/comments.

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Great post, ka!


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At first my thought was "well that's a good way to lose a girls attention" and therefore miss out on someone possibly interesting or simply some ass.

But i think it was style who said "you have to be willing to lose the girl". I am now starting to use that philosophy....although it REALLY feels wrong. If a girl is asking you to hang out that night,....you can a. take advantage of that situation and do it....or b. respond as you put "my plans SPAM are tentative..so maybe."

The bad thing about option (A) is that she can now at the last minute flake...leaving you with built up anticipation and feeling like a loser.

But (B) leaves you more in control....although by playing that "hoops" game..the girl might not jump the hoop because she's playing the same game... leaving you with built up anticipation and needing to jerk off. (unfortunately like tonight)

I'm sure a PUA will say option B(tentative plans/maybe/possible) is a good response so it leaves you in more control....but that gives the girl the option to recognize the game you're playing....reciprecate in her response/action and leaves both of you at a draw. Maybe both of you really DO want to hang out and like each other....but protecting the ego comes first. That's my problem with playing games is....not putting yourself out there ...just like direct vs indirect.


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This is good.

Here's something I've been doing lately that works effectively in texts:

1) I feign interest by asking what would be considered a "Me" question
- "Hey what time is it?" blah blah
This gets them thinking about you. Then no matter what the response is, don't reply.

Basically you're asking them a question that they expect a thankyou from and you're not giving the thanks. Because you don't give the thanks you remain on thier mind until they feel thier side of the deal has been fulfilled. As a result most of the time they will contact you to follow up with questions like:

Why?

What's happening then?

What are you doing?

Basically you take the tables and turn them around by making it a "Me" based conversation, but from your own perspective. Then just neg, be vague but randomly insert complete responses. The result is that the messages you send become so mixed that they are interested. You become unpredictable - which is seductive.

NOTE - this only works if you're patient. Sometimes it'll be 4 hours before they text you. Just wait. They always follow up when you don't say thanks.

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At first my thought was "well that's a good way to lose a girls attention" and therefore miss out on someone possibly interesting or simply some ass.

But i think it was style who said "you have to be willing to lose the girl". I am now starting to use that philosophy....although it REALLY feels wrong. If a girl is asking you to hang out that night,....you can a. take advantage of that situation and do it....or b. respond as you put "my plans SPAM are tentative..so maybe."

The bad thing about option (A) is that she can now at the last minute flake...leaving you with built up anticipation and feeling like a loser.

But (B) leaves you more in control....although by playing that "hoops" game..the girl might not jump the hoop because she's playing the same game... leaving you with built up anticipation and needing to jerk off. (unfortunately like tonight)

I'm sure a PUA will say option B(tentative plans/maybe/possible) is a good response so it leaves you in more control....but that gives the girl the option to recognize the game you're playing....reciprecate in her response/action and leaves both of you at a draw. Maybe both of you really DO want to hang out and like each other....but protecting the ego comes first. That's my problem with playing games is....not putting yourself out there ...just like direct vs indirect.
Slyder i can see your point here, but your thinking how a guy thinks, we are say as we do creatures....girls say yes and mean no, and say no and mean no, so we cant really be sure if they mean no or no ;)

Seriously though, the idea here is that if a girl is "using' you just to satisfy her need for attention, you shouldnt be jumping the gun to do so. Some of the lines of communication they open are purely for this purpose.

What im saying is to truely frame control over the long stretch, you need to ignore most if not all of the "me" questions, which they ask only to entertain thier own needs. If she asks you a vague question its more likely she will flake on you then if she asks you a specific question, to which you respond but not in her favor completely.

Lets examine the examples i use. Also keep in mind at first you may be lying, saying you have plans when you dont, but the time will come shortly where thats the case every weekend, you have too many plans for too many people to do all of it in 1 weekend, and then you do have to make choices.

So in my example, lets say a girl asks what your doin this weekend and its tuesday...Sure if you have already closed in some way maybe shes all about you. Otherwise shes trying to get a feel for you, she most likely has little intention of planning anything with you.

Think about it this way, have you ever called a buddy and gone "Hey what are you doing this weekend." The answer is no, you might ask "Is there anything going on this weekend" or "Are you busy this weekend, i need to get out". Also more often then not id bet your specific when asking your friends whats going on, "Hey are you doing anything friday night" or "hey whats going on friday night?"

If she had plans, or specific intent with you, shed have asked more specificlly when and what you were doing, just like you would your buddies.

Which brings us to her asking another way "what are you doing tongiht' or "what are you doing friday". This is where you should respond, but that doesnt mean jump on the oppurtunity...this may make her flake out. Instead leave it a maybe, give her a hoop to jump through, and make her work for your time.

Think about when you were a kid, if your mother told you you could have 2 cookies and a glass of milk, you would most likely be satisfied (and thus uninterested in more cookies). Now instead your mom told you you couldnt have any cookies...to what lengths would you go for cookies and how many cookies would you take?

Or take for example Police trying to trick thiefs...if the set a bag of money on the ground out in plain sight...almost no one would take it...chances are someone would eventually notice and call the police.

On the other hand if you left a bag of money in plain sight within a locked car...chances are more likely someone will break into the car to steal the money.

Why, because they have to work for it...when something is too easy people feel uneasy about it, and naturally retract from thier own intentions or behavoirs.

The idea here is to filter out the hour long convos of fluff talk where you try to frame control and instead having a quality 15 min convo where you really get to work your magic, because your in control and shes chasing you now.

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