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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:42 pm 
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Hi, I've been lurking on the site for about a 7-10days. I never have problems when introducing myself on forums...but for some reason I'm nervous on this one...heh.

I, like others, got out of a crazy long relationship that lasted a few years to long. I've never been a very social guy (I feel like I'm in an AA confession meeting or something). Main reason for me not being social with women is not fear of rejection but I already assume that I have been rejected. Reason being is I'm a short guy, 5'2" and I have freely walked up to ppl and in many cases I have been rejected before I even reach the mark(target).

Any help/hope for that?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:53 am 
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Welcome to the PUAF 2extreem. First things first - Self Confidence. I'm not a huge supporter of the Real Social Dynamics stuff, but I do believe that Inner Game is the key to success here. So stop being shy! We're all here to help each other.

As far as the whole height thing goes - I don't think that's actually so big a deal. I mean, being really tall is probably no better than being very short, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter (take Mystery, for example). A buddy of mine is very short (probably right around 5' tall, perhaps a bit more). But he has two things going for him - 1) his inner game is SOLID. He doesn't care or give a shit about what other people think of him. He does and says what he wants (I suppose that ties back to the RSD stuff). The other thing is he's kind of a tank. He's been working out for 4 years and is really BUILT. He actually beats up on another buddy of ours who is much taller, but is scrawny and can't stand up for himself.

So my advice - work on the confidence. If large sets are intimidating, start smaller. Start meeting "Point-people" as David Wygant would call them (I believe that's what they're called). And if you need/want to, start hitting up the gym, and pack on some muscle. At the very LEAST it'll help you feel better about yourself.

You may have a rough time AMOGging at first, but once you get better at it, it'll be a breeze.

Cheers friend, I hope to hear about your successes!

Q.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:30 pm 
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Word. Thanks Q!

I'm a skinny guy but I started working out last week...I'm still crazy sore. I think I over did it. I have been told that looks really don't matter that much...they help...but shouldn't matter...but I can't get it out of my head b/c I've cast myself into believing it's true. (any tips on "getting over it").

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:41 am 
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Lol well, the only way to really get over it (I'm assuming you're talking about the importance of looks) is to understand the difference between the male and female brain (not necessarily understand how the female brain works - cause it is F*ed up lol - but the difference).

Basically - guys are very Visual. Very logical. Very absolute and cut/dry about things. We see things in black and white. Which is why that when we see a woman, the first thing (whether we like to admit it or not) we take note of is looks. It's just the way we're wired.

Women are more responsive to suggestion, subtlety, and qualities about a person. It's funny because some of the girls to whom I've asked, "What do you find physically attractive about a guy," they'll often reply with - "I don't know." Which may seem like a stupid answer to guys, but not to them. Which isn't to say that looks don't matter at all, but just because you don't look like Brad Pitt doesn't mean you can't attract an HB10.

I vaguely recall a study done by doctors/scientists where they monitored the brain chemistry of males and females while showing them pornography. The male brain showed a huge shift in brain chemistry as they responded to the visual stimuli. The women, however, not so much.

I made a HUGE mistake with a girl (someone for whom I had some serious oneitis) where I tried to break out of the Friend Zone by trying to get her to start seeing me in a sexual context. Sufficed to say, it was less than classy. (Many) Girls don't respond to sexuality the same way guys do. Not at first, anyway.

I think it's really important for people to do their best to look after their bodies and physical appearance. It raises your own self-confidence (trust me, just stick with it and you'll start feeling a lot better about yourself), and raises your standards of others.

A good work out program is this program called P90X. I've tried it once, it's very difficult, but it's a regimen based off of push ups, pull ups, chin ups, and a few weights. They claim that you can get ripped in 90 days, and offers its own diet program. A little expensive (about $200) but cheaper than going to the gym. May be worth looking in to. I still recommend going to the gym, it's a great way to get out of the house.

Don't worry man I was once like you. I used to weigh only 100 lbs, and I'm 5'8". In the course of a few months I packed on enough muscle to bring that up to 145lbs, and feel a lot better about myself. And while my main motivation to go to the gym was to impress girls (lol), it eventually became more about making myself feel better about how I looked in the mirror. All this Pickup stuff should be about making yourself feel more confident about who you are. If you can do that, the women will follow.

Remember, the key to muscle gain is in your diet, not just working out. Talk to a nutritionist at your gym, or check out Men's Health.

Cheers,

Q.

PS - Q is for Qlass. Haha.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 pm 
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Wow that's sick, I haven't heard that lol. I have been reading "The Game" for the past few days and watching David DeAngelo's (SP) body language.

My roommates had some friends over and we were hanging out in the hottub...so I decided to work on my body language. Just by leaning back with my elbows on the edge. I seen the girls would glance my way more frequently and When I spoke they're eyes didn't shift from me.

It actually made me nervous because I'm not used to that kind of attention. I'm usually the guy that speaks and no one hears...but not last night!

I still have a long long way to go but I'm going to keep working at it.


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