You gotta remember the point of the game is to get girls that would otherwise be out of your league or reach. Im 24 and probably a 7 so with perfect game I have no excuses to not get a 9/10, where as a 65 year old would have to be a magician to do that but would maybe be able to get a 40 something decent looker with perfect game. So long as your getting better women before its worth while.

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Another thing is, and this is coming from my personal perspective of where I find myself, is that to attract women you need to be charismatic, fun and interesting, and guys that come into this stuff at a relatively young age who don't have these qualities have a lot more scope to develop them.
For someone older this may be a hell of a lot more difficult especially if they have been a loner all their life and find themselves to be shy and quiet in general social situations.
I'm sure though that any guy, no matter what age, could definately improve if they have plenty of positive social experience already.

the only places i go to try and pick up girls is at the malls, since i never have money to go the clubs......

nah its cool best of luck to you man be sure to post some field reports and i some of the guys on the board will give you critique and feedback as mystery once said " your either in AFC land or you are in PUA land you cant sit the fence on this life you have choosen for yourself"

-Diligent-

GReat mindset

Yeah Hey man read the game it talks about a PUA in his seventies that looks old as shit who picks up HBs left and right

I am unofficially the youngest at 15, even though i think i saw a 14 year old around these forums somewere...

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Learning social skills is one thing... but everyone is here to learn and master the skills of pick up. Which is hard enough to do when you live with your parents. Plus, believe me when I say this: as fun as it may be to go out sarging, attempt and even be successful, but picking up 15 year old girls to play with their minds, and take their virginity. Not cool dude. Not too much fun either... just my opinion.

Dont worry, your wrong

THE MANS 83!
Hell, his first condom must have been made out of bark!
(Thankyou gilbert gotfried)

Oh, and Luscious, i understand what your saying, and i agree, somewhat.
But why go through hs and college in misery because lack of female attention? At my age, i am content with a date or to, building my social circle and the like. If you wanted to master an instrument, would you wait till your mid-20's to start learning it? Of course not! The earlier you learn it, the better you will become. Pickup and music are parallels: They both take time. Im just giving myself as much time as possible.

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Same man, sucks epically.

this is really for like any age lol

If you wanted to master an instrument, would you wait till your mid-20's to start learning it? Of course not! The earlier you learn it, the better you will become. Pickup and music are parallels: They both take time. Im just giving myself as much time as possible.


I disagree with the above theory. I remember Tyler Durden (From RSD) saying the same thing. "Pick up is like learning a new sport or instrument.
It takes 5 years or so to get good at this"

I disagree. Like any skill, ambition or goal- the quicker you write something down, visualise it- play out the scenario in your head the faster yo move towards your goal.

Take AFC adam Lyons. In 2 years he went from obscurity in the UK (PUA is virtually unknown here- it is all word of mouth at the moment). Some guys when they discover PUA say it rediculous and dont bother- to the 3rd best PUA in the world!

I don't wish any fame from my own PUA journey- however I have my "goals".

First, i apologize for not giving credit were credit is do for a statement. I myself am a musician-in-training, so it sounded good to me.

To an extent, you are right that pick up does not take "5 years" to "get good at", and I agree, but...

What is your definition of "good", and what are your goals?

Do you want to bang girls?
It doesn't take "writing it down, visualising it, and playing the scenario out in your head". You could go out, kidnap a woman, and rape her within 30 minutes. Does that make you "good"? Of course not, and i don't condone that.

Do you want to find a wife using pick up?
Sure, it wouldn't take years to attract, comfort, seduce (Credit: the Mystery Method) a woman, and then marry her. Does that make you good? No, because it takes your entire life to keep that marriage, that spark, alive, and only when you both are six feet under, together, can you honestly say that your PUA journey was a success.

I may be the youngest person on this forum, but I am at the age were being sex-deprived is OK, and i have no plans of banging anyone except the very best girl(s) that i can find. Whether or not i marry her, well, I am too young to know. Ofcourse, i can still practice my game on other women, just without the seduction part

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13 lol, im pretty good but im better at teaching. its an odd curse i live with

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I'm 26 and have just started my personal PUA journey I'm glad I found this thread, since it helped me get some perspective. Age will only hamper me if I let it. And hey, I feel like a million bucks, I look great (I'm satisfied with my appearence) and things are just starting to look up! Oh yeah

Age is what you feel like

Some people feel young at 60... (i've met an 70 yr old player in Paris who i've taught a few thins about game.. haha)

Some people feel old at 20...(people who let bad experience overwhelm them and who cover themselves in worries)

What do you allow yourself to feel like?

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