So here's a new one to try out if your stuck in an awkward situation of where you may have to socially buy a woman a drink such as you are going to head back to the bar to buy a drink and the girl you happen to be speaking with either A. asks you to buy her a drink or B. looks at her empty glass and expectedly at you as if to buy her a drink and you don't want to say no and risk ruining the moment w/her by looking cheap. Again, only do this if you have to buy her a drink and still developing I'm sure more experienced PUS's would be better able to avoid ever being in this situation!


Tell her you will buy her a drink if she can name something that money can't buy...under most circumstances most women will say HAPPINESS! (its about as often as she will guess 7 in the number guessing game so its not 100%)

Once she says this, respond by saying: You know what your absolutely right, you def can't buy happiness and proceed by not buying her a drink. When she asks why you didn't buy her a drink tell her because you didn't want to waste your money if she wasn't going to be happy from receiving the drink! You can play with this as much as she is in a mood to flirt from there...

If on the other hand she says something superficial like you can't buy Love you can easily debate with her and tell her thats not true, look at Anna Nicole Smith and the high number of prostitutes!!

But if she gives you a legitimate answer such as Time or Health I'd suggest you have an intelligent woman on your hand well worth keeping around so do yourself the favor and buy her the drink!

I love it.

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Ryot

This is funny my friends and i were talking ABOUT THIS EXACT TOPIC last night, it was four of us and well we were asking each other if we (guys) should feel bad if the girl we are out with has more money available at the time, (she pays for the dinner, movie,ect.....) that kind of thing.

one opinion was; guys should always pay its the right thing blablabla

another one was; why should the guy pay we shouldn't have too

my opinion is well depending on the circumstance if i invite like actually say (hey Merlyn i would like to take you to this restaurant, that implies " Guys treat" right?), however if you suggest ( hey Monica, im heading to the movies this weekend, you should join me; this no longer implies "guys treat")
oviosly you must run prior game, that has effectively given the women your with or talking to the desire to spend time with you.

yeah went a little of topic sorry about that.

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Go Make it Happen!

The idea that men should ALWAYS pay is AFC at best. In the lands where men and women earn similar amounts of money, and are on equal terms in most points in society is there any logical reason why a man should pay?
No.
If you offer to pay for something because you invited them to enjoy your company for free. Yeah sure, good for you.
But never buy a woman anything as a way into her pants.
I live my life by the rule, Very seldomly buy a girl anything until you have slept with her. Then you can be courteous.

Just my opinion.

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thats cool i like it.

if u do feel in a sitch where it 'may' be appropriate, put a price on it, location change, a one hour massage....something like that

dm

i like the line for the drinks is very good,
i normally jus preach on about equal rites and that if yuo WANT to vote, AND get a JOB, be able to drive, (i really lay it on thick here) then YOU can afford to buy your own drink. i verge on sexist but have teh biggest grin it is abviously just sarcasm but fun none the less.

on the topic of guys/girls paying, one of the best things i'v had recently is our lass, took me out bought me dinner, looked after me (jus had my tongue pierced) adn then paid me out to see spiderman3, and spoon fed me iced drink in the movies for my tongue.
the reason why this is best is becoz when i buy stuff or lend her money i know that its not jus taken advantage of when i had no money she activelty thought to help me out/take me out/buy me food before my piercing as you can teat afterwards, in the pub she gave me the last of her money for a drink, i was gna get a pint but bought a vodka lime lemonade which we shared, she bought the drink but i got brownie points for choosing somethin we both like?!?!
its all give and take like everything if the guy gives everything then it will begin to mean nothin if you both give a little or alot it will mean alot more too each other. dnt take advantage of anyhtin always try to acknowledge when something nice has being done for you, and in tern she wil do the same. if she dosnt then its a waste of your efforts.
-peace-

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WHat do you know Enigma !!

i mean, yeah your probly right man, The best thing you can do is tease them when they just Expect and as someone already pointed out, paying for shit is AFC. Personally If a girl asks me to buy her a drink id come back with something cocky and funny like, hey can you cook...?? ok then why dont you come over and make dinner in return,i need a good feed. ok i actually made that up right now but its that easy to come back at them with something. I liked the line about 'Happiness' you can pretty much pull anything off if you say it with enuff conviction.

im jus speakin gfrom experience dude, my recent experiences wi this girl hav opened my eyes up to past relationships so just an opinion.
i like the cooking line, hav heard somethin similar on here it works well, hav you read the pain period?? its somethign like that anywyas search for impact... in the authors and pain period will come up watch the videos man its good.
the last note on this, i got a quote
"nothin in this life worth having will come easy, so if you want somethin enough you weill work for it" when things got hard i used to bail, not anymore.
and keep the flirting and game up even when you r with her, it'l always remind her of the chase, an when at best we were all PUA.

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Black tattoos up and down his arm, aint nothin more dangerous than aboy woth charm - christina aguilera

how about using your instincts...

I am not opposed to buying a girl a drink if I feel there is already a connection. Some people in my age group (30+) would say that this is proper etiquette. If in CERTAIN scenarios I flat out refuse to buy a drink for a woman it's just as bad as if I refuse to open a door for a lady etc.

Much like STYLE's are you a social robot post, I'm asking all of you to drop your own bitch shield and be a human being. If you wanna buy her a drink and you think that in this specific scenario it won't be a DLV then do it for god sake. Game is unique for each individual. Although there seem to be some comonalities we can all benefit from internalizing. For God sakes think for yourself.

Now I will say that when I'm in a trendy club and I'm dealing with women in there early 20s, then I tend to avoid buyind drinks. Myself and other posters here have stories to tell about girls who have a "rule" that they aren't buying their own drinks.

When a girl like this asks me to buy her a drink. I say in a patronizing way "I'm sorry, I have a rule. I don't buy girls drinks in bars...but you can buy me one!" or..."I tell you what I don't buy drinks for girls in bars...but I'll give you a test and if you pass the test I'll buy you a drink but if you fail you have to buy me a drink...now I'm going to ask you 5 questions...blah blah blah"

None of us want to do what AFC's do. HBs who want us to buy them drinks are essentially giving us a shit test. So....pass the damn test...if you are in a social circle where it's a faux pax to refuse, then buy the damn drink (country club, high income business people etc). The shit test here is "does he have any class". But...in a club/bar the shit test is are you a AFC loser like all the other guys here or are you someone special. So make her earn her drink. Or find a way to tell her you can't do it that makes here feel like she just failed YOUR SHIT TEST. Reverse that shit on her and now you are DHVing.

Just me 2 cents

Cutter

Nice Post there cutter. I agree with most of what you are getting at.
I especially love your idea of her asking for a drink and you flipping it round to a 'Well you can do this test and earn it.'
Seems like an obvious thing to do but I have never really thought about it before.

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