I need to know if there are any PUA's out there that have learned these dark art skills to obtain a women to marry, and have been happily married for years.

Does this exist? I don't want speculation. I need to know the truth. We all need the truth. This is in no way an attack on anything for good vs bad, or anything like that. I just need to know, we all need to know.

Sincerely,
Magnum

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Walk Hard

A lot of people want that.

Remember you learn a whole lot more than just how to pick up a woman. You will also give yourself choices. If you want a long happy relationship you're going to need to ensure you pick the correct one.

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I'm a winner - I am going to win.

Yes. there are ways to do this.

No. I will not teach you.

You don't need these techniques to keep a woman. If you do things right then she won't leave you.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

We r working on it, go to this link

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Mind fucking + Heavy NLP + Heavy emotional investment in you = She isn't going anywhere.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

Once you leave the realm of casual sexdom and head into serious relationshipville, you will need to understand that men (yes MEN not boys) have certain responsibilities in keeping a couple intact and working.

It is when men deny these responsibilities that they fail in keeping a quality woman.

You can't PUA yourself into a successful marriage. Only taking care of business and holding down your end of the bargain will get you the right woman for the job.


Anyone can marry a female, but it takes a Man to keep a Woman.

So the answer is no? No PUA has gotten married here? Does anyone know of one besides sweater?

What if the great power we gain when we become PUA degrades the value of a women so much that marriage is no longer an option?

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Walk Hard

Wrong way.

If a guy wants to use pickup to get married, he should go down the path of focusing on self-improvement rather than learning NLP techniques, etc.

There are some guys who can get really good at mind-fucking and the sort, but that doesn't mean they'd make good husbands. They might still be really stunted in their maturity on the inside, and that would lead to an unhappy marriage for both him and the woman.

A man who wants a woman must, as The Chef said, become a MAN and properly prepare himself for the success he seeks. The focus here is Inner Game. Not that fake Inner Game crap that just involves self-delusion, but the permanent change that comes with some real PUA experience.

I don't think a lot of people want marriage anymore. If they did then the divorce rate would not be over 50%. I know for my self I am unsure if I want to get married.

If you want to get married you should probably leave the game. There's no room for the alpha role, routines, or any bullshit. If anyone is too get married first, I vote Hobbit.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

You usually get married after at least a few years of being in an exclusive relationship. Exclusive relationships don't include you picking up other girls all the time, hence you don't lead an active PUA-lifestyle and therefore don't participate as much in forums either as you used to. And this is the reason why you don't find married PUA's in forums.

Just my guess.